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2014-12-10 22:17
Parody

Registered: Jul 2013
Posts: 7
Leftmost sprite position and opening borders

I just noticed that x=0 for a sprite doesn't cover the "start" of the left side border, Is there any way to achieve this?
 
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2014-12-22 12:18
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980
Which solution that is easier (and just needs a few gates) would you propose, then? And don't say anything about fractional counters :)
2014-12-22 14:40
Flavioweb

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 463
I don't have a solution... more simple o more complex, but if xpos is the same for sprites and lightpen, and we have the same value of xpos for 1 cycle = 8 pixels, how can vic detect a sprite collision correctly in this range of dots?
2014-12-22 19:13
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Collisions are not directly related to xpos. Collisions occur when data shifted out from the sprite shift registers fulfill a collision condition. Xpos is only used to trigger the sprite.

I don't believe the value of xpos stays the same. It seems like 0x180-0x187 repeats twice like I stated earlier.
2014-12-22 19:31
Flavioweb

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 463
"Trigger" a sprite mean "set" where it appears?
If so, in NTSC, where would appear 2 sprites with coord $184 and $187?
{ Phi1(62), 0x184, None, SprDma1(1), BaSpr3(1, 2, 3), None },
{ Phi2(62), 0x184, None, SprDma2(1), BaSpr3(1, 2, 3), None },
{ Phi1(63), 0x184, None, SprPtr(2), BaSpr2(2, 3), None

...here we have 6 possible positions between 12 "dots"...
2014-12-22 19:52
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
LOL at those fractions
2014-12-22 20:33
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
@flavioweb: it can be shown that a sprite can only trigger once per line so there will a gap instead of two triggers.

Perhaps if you are really sneaky you could change xpos on the fly so it gets set to $0180-$0187 exactly at the cycle where the repeat occurs? Then it should be triggered 8 pixels later which is way nerdy cool.
2014-12-22 20:35
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
i demand a test program :)
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