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Cupid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 83 |
Emulator Awareness Campaign - your help needed
Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,
I want your help and support for an idea I had when I saw the emufuxxor of Krill/Plush a year or so ago.
The Emulator Awareness campaign.
In a nutshell, it is a small program that you can link to any release (or allow it to load the main part) that will show a "nag screen" in emulators, explaining that the user is using an emulator and has to be aware of the experience he will get not being the real thing.
This can prevent a lot of wrong criticism and bug reports, and, at least in our book, is a more mature and efficient way to deal with the emulator phenomena than not caring about "emulamers".
Read about it here:
http://www.cupid.de/eac/
What I need from you now, is a list of problems that emulators have, what bad experience users get and that there is not a way around them for the developer.
This data will be used to fill the "where emulators fail" section on the site, which will be featured in the nag screen.
Thanks for your attention, flame away
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_V_
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 124 |
I'm into the idea! But how about automating the process, and keeping it simple and standardized... black screen, small, modest white letters telling us "Emu (not the bird hahaha) detected, this demo will not be like the real thing" (okay, maybe not *exactly* this text). It stays on there for about 2-3 seconds, and then the demo begins. If the real thing is detected, no preliminary screen. It's that simple.
*raving mode on*
If everyone does this, it'll be as if all c64 movies are starting with the famous, standardized TFX intro (except that ours is so much cooler and shorter). After a while, you don't even see it anymore, yet - it's there, and then we can all point and laugh at reviewers using the emoo and giving the wrong impression of a demo, going "h4H, n00B! r33D tah d3m00!!11". Or we're normal people and we don't, but at least we know we can do it if we want to. It's a peace of mind I wouldn't immediately say no to.
On an apparently related note: classic X-Men rule! (except for Jubilee, but noone likes her anyway) Gimme Wolverine, 'Gambite', Rogue and Mystique already OooYAarGh!
*crazy mode off. Well, for a little while* |
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_V_
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 124 |
*told you - it's only for a little while!*
Well, if the EAC results in the creation of a Demo Cracking Scene, sign me up! Just think how cool it would be to see your demo, cracked +X! That'd mean a really neat cracktro in front of your demo -which might be interpreted as a nag screen in itself, but this aside- and then a black screen where you get to select things such as these:
* EAC nag screen OFF (Y/N):
* lamest part of demo (you know which one) OFF (Y/N):
* Space to switch between parts OFF (Y/N):
* Secret parts play during demo (Y/N):
* Unlimited BOBs OFF (Y/N):
* Goldrush scrolltexts ON (Y/N):
* (if ON) Add Goldrush scrolltexts in every part (Y/N):
* Skip to end part (Y/N):
And of course, all this in a tight IFFL-linked, one-side package. I mean, how cool is that? ;)
*insane mode OFF (Y/N): Yes*
Back to drawing stuff... |
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raven
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 137 |
You still havent considered the following..
I havent seen a 100% correct emu-detection routine to
date, and I tried them all.
They sure detect the Emu, but also some C64's (and especially some 128's) as an Emu & even sometimes crash
the machine.
@Krill: as long as PC remains PC, it will never fully
emulate the C64 100%, regardless of HW power, imho.
Besides the Emu disadvantages listed by others, the main
thing for me is kinda irrelevant for this idea.
To put is simply, it completely lacks the C64 FEEL.
When using an Emu, I dont feel like I'm doing anything
C64 related & thats kinda the point, isnt it?
@Vip: irc meeting tue/wed.. usual time & place :)
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1922 |
What a senseless discussion....
l8r
Count Zero/CyberpunX/SCS*TRC |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote:
What a senseless discussion....
l8r
Count Zero/CyberpunX/SCS*TRC
He should have allowed us to continue our comics-talk, it could have saved this thread. |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
Hmm.. I'd like to see some preview download of the program, even if there's no finished propaganda text yet. |
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Yodelking
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 189 |
While coding such a pointless code, you can do one for those who produces their demos on an emulator, so people know why it might look odd on a real C-64. |
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Roger
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 2 |
Well Cupid, then what about quitting the whole Emu scene then? Fanatics like you simply overlook the fact, that you try to establish your idea of the "real C64 world" in an forum, that is dedicated to Emulator stuff etc. 98% of the actual C64 development and progress uses the PC. Maybe you should also cut your internet access aswell.
I think I should try something different: a nag screen for all "real 1337 sceners" out there that even try to ruin the last breathe of the C64.
So please Cupid, stop using 21th century technique for your agitation. Use pen and paper stuff. That would be real cool and only "100% C64 style". This kind of hyprocrisis leads to the well-knwon term: L A M E (R)! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352 |
did you even understand what was cupids original idea dumbnut? pfft |
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CyberBrain
Administrator
Posts: 392 |
Quote: While coding such a pointless code, you can do one for those who produces their demos on an emulator, so people know why it might look odd on a real C-64.
Guys... Making a screen informing emu-users that stuff won't look as good as on a real C64, surely won't hurt emu-users. It will only inform them that what they do is wrong, and that they should be punished. Eeh... I mean, it'll only inform them that the demos won't (most likely) look as good as they're supposed to. |
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