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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680 |
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Why do some of you hide your votes? HMM? this makes no sense. And stop downvoting people just because you do not like them.
This database is supposed to be accurate, not a place for you to continue with your stupid grudges and scene wars.
a note to perff: since Secret Man, WDR etc have been deleted from this, I think you should also remove all their votes.
and get rid of this hidden voting, if people cannot publicy stand by their vote choices, then they shouldn't be voting at all.
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Yeah, what the hell is going on with the hidden votes crap?
This database should be promoting scene-values. In the old days a votesheet or a BBS-votesheet showed who made the votes. People were proud to say/show who they voted for and were willing to back up why they made their choice.
This scene spirit should be reflected here on this database. This modern "hide voter identity" nonsense should be removed, IMMEDIATELY!!
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1647 |
Why not include the functionality of polls on this site? I mean.. then you guys with strong opinions could decide once and for all what to do concerning various issues. There will always be people around with opposite oppinions, so obviously some kind of METHOD is needed to come to an end with the endless discussions. Personally I am more tired about people debating the site itself rather than on topic stuff. Who cares about the voting and such shit anyway? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
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This database should be promoting scene-values. In the old days a votesheet or a BBS-votesheet showed who made the votes. People were proud to say/show who they voted for and were willing to back up why they made their choice.
oh come on... ppl voted for themselves, "upvoted" their own groups, their friends, "downvoted" whoever they didnt like, and if there werent enough votes they were made up :)
not very different from what is going on here imho =P
what made a lot more sense back then though was the process of collecting the votes. results were not shown to people until the poll was over (flaw number one here), and the poll was restarted from scratch frequently to reflect changing opinions (flaw number two here).
and uh, the votes for mags (i cant say about BBSs, i never even looked at the voting stuff there) werent ever really public" either, its not like they ever published who voted what :)
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Groepaz: I guess things are a bit different for me, being a mag editor, as I saw all the votesheets coming in, who was filling them in etc.
Frantic: yeh, a poll would be nice! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
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Groepaz: I guess things are a bit different for me, being a mag editor, as I saw all the votesheets coming in, who was filling them in etc.
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i was a mag editor aswell back in the 80s - and as such i can say that the charts here are 100 times "better" than they ever were in a mag :) |
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BAR.
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 324 |
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ppl voted for themselves, "upvoted" their own groups, their friends, "downvoted" whoever they didnt like, and if there werent enough votes they were made up :)
This is true, i have to agree.
+voted under false names, fake handles, type fake groups in,
and so on.. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
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Groepaz: I guess things are a bit different for me, being a mag editor, as I saw all the votesheets coming in, who was filling them in etc.
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i was a mag editor aswell back in the 80s - and as such i can say that the charts here are 100 times "better" than they ever were in a mag :)
Well, I disagree. I preferred the mag charts to the charts here. Both have their negatives but there is a lot more problems here than there were with some of the magazines.
Getting back to the original discussion, downvoting and anonymous voting should be removed. Open a poll to see who agrees <-- THIS is a nice idea!
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
i can't see how downvoting can be removed, isnt everyone free to vote whatever he likes? i said it often enough, i always vote either 1 or 10, so all my votes are either up or down votes i guess? =D |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Everyone can vote with 1 to 10 - sure. But by anon. voting these retards can use fake accounts and deliberately award low points (downvoting) or high points (upvoting) to make the chart reflect things how THEY want it to look. Each person should have one vote per release/scener/group only.
Removing anon. voting and voting by fake scene profiles would eliminate help this. And exposing votes from all sceners would promote a more honest and transparent system.
Btw, magazine charts rule! CSDB charts suck! POLL PLEASE! ;) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
what you are saying pretty much boils down to what i am saying since ages: every account should be linked to a scener profile.
anonymous votes aren't the problem, really - it's a lot of other details that are flawed. |
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