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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057 |
Profession: *supporter*
I think we need some general name for profession like supporter, or something around that (can't think of better name for profession). I would like to give 10 to Xiny6581 for his C64 SID audio recording efforts. Really appreciated.
Also there are others like him I spot around CSDB. Working hard to keep this database consitent, adding more and more data, and relations. That's totally awesome. Love you all. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4731 |
C0: If you would call f.ex. Hawk International (importing swedish Triad-cracks to Denmark) or Ace Crackings (importing german stuff to Denmark) lame; yes. |
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Cresh
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354 |
From 2015's perspective it looks so much different, and yes, can be called lame. Think 1989, be fair. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
agree, in 89 you couldnt just click a download button, it needed quite some effort to import over continents.build contacts, reputation, etc. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
for the most part it was "have parents with enough money to get you a phoneline and modem" though |
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Bitbreaker
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 508 |
Suggestion: for each 10 releases one can unlock another profession for one's handle :-D I'd even get along with music, gfx and code as only professions, any further shit can be added to the demo anyway. |
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Tao
Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 115 |
Quote: for the most part it was "have parents with enough money to get you a phoneline and modem" though
So, following the same reasoning we can remove swapper as a profession too, seeing as that only required parents with enough money to get you a C= 64, a drive (or for crazies, a C2N) and plenty of envelopes & stamps. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
Quote:plenty of envelopes & stamps
LOL. good one.
but we are getting to the point - "swapper" vs "modem trader" isnt much different than "logo graphician" vs "fullscreen graphician". |
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White Flame
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 136 |
I upgraded my modem once, so I'm expecting a "modem swapper" profession. I can't remember if I traded my old modem to someone else, so I'll be generous and won't demand "modem trader". ;-) |
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The Shadow
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304 |
This is what an importer exactly is:
An importer used to import from continent to continent. Country to country alone does not count. Anyone who claimed to be an importer from Denmark to Germany was not a true importer.
An importer in the United States, for instance, called up a member of a cracking group in a European nation on the telephone and the two sceners made a modem connection and the European scener transferred a fresh crack to the American scener. In most cases though the scener in Europe called the scener in America, due to the abundance of AT&T calling cards available at the time.
After the transfer of the crack was done, the Importer gave the fresh crack to another member of his/her group with coding skills to complete the release. Completion (in the early days of the scene) was often simply putting an importing group intro on top of the main crack file.
As time went by and the concept and practice of NTSC fixing became the common way, the importing group spent between 5 minutes and up to 4 days to NTSC fix the cracked game and released it. The average time to NTSC fix games was a few hours.
Importers typically called many different crackers to establish trading agreements, to import games and to supply trading partners with AT&Ts.
An important fact about importing was that importers were generally assisted by other teammates who were dedicated AT&T Hackers. Technically the "AT&T Hackers" were not usually hackers at all but rather skilled social engineers. AT&T Hackers (their official group title) were a vital element to importing and vital to the smooth functioning of the scene itself. AT&Ts allowed people in much of the world to call the many BBS in America.
Importing was mostly done by modem since mail trading was too slow to be practical for first release.
Importing from America to Europe was done too but not as much since very few games needed to be PAL fixed.
Importing was a very important job in the old scene.
Regarding the use of professions, Phreaker should be removed. Nearly everyone in the old scene phreaked. It is a pointless mention.
AT&T Hacker would make a good replacement since it was so vital in the old days. |
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