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2023-11-29 00:23
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 518
Event id #3365 : Lovebyte 2024

Lovebyte is coming :)

As the C64 is still underrepresented in this sizecoding-dedicated demoparty (a little less last year with my humble efforts ;) ), please consider joining the competitions with your tiny entries :) It would be so awesome to witness more Commodore entries from seasoned, active coders! Our platform really gives a nice challenge when it comes to those tiny intros ;)
 
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2023-12-08 17:03
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11442
Compos are being created on demand. When enough ppl want to release this and that, organizers will make a compo for it. That Evoke doesn't explicitly lists PETSCII only means: there has been no demand for it.

In the case of Evoke, i'd say over 80% of the visitors are regulars that know the Orgas personally, and for many years - so what you say simply isn't a problem. In particular the (admittedly not so many) people from the C64 scene that visit it all know this. And the one guy i remember from C64 scene, who visits Evoke, that has made PETSCII before would usually enter with an ANSI in that compo (and never with a PETSCII, not on other Parties either).

And none of this changes that both PETSCII and 4Ks are pretty much quite established :)
2023-12-08 17:20
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 3003
Quoting wacek
Quoting Krill
Okay, so would something like Srpnsk [16 bytes] be a-okay with Lovebyte rules, and does the load address ($0082) count? :)
In case of 8b,16b,32b,64b header is excluded. So in fact you'd have some extra bytes to spare ;)
So, that'd make the mentioned example a 14-byte entry as per Lovebyte rules, with 2 more bytes to spare, yeah? :)
2023-12-08 17:28
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 3003
Quoting chatGPZ
Compos are being created on demand. When enough ppl want to release this and that, organizers will make a compo for it.
Indeed. "Enough" usually meaning at least 3 entries make a compo. =)

(Conversely, only 1 or 2 entries in a compo will cause that compo to be merged with another compo.)
2023-12-08 19:44
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11442
Actually, at the parties where i was involved into organising compos, it was more like "2 entries" at least - the 3rd would be a silly compofiller (made by me perhaps) :) (This might not work at Evoke, since no more C64 sceners are involved AFAIK)
2023-12-08 20:51
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 518
Quoting Krill
So, that'd make the mentioned example a 14-byte entry as per Lovebyte rules, with 2 more bytes to spare, yeah? :)
Yep :) Here's an example: Late at Night, Programming the ODRA 1304 [16 bytes], 18 bytes including the load address.
2023-12-08 20:57
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 518
Quoting chatGPZ
Compos are being created on demand. When enough ppl want to release this and that, organizers will make a compo for it.
I am sorry, maybe there were/are some parties like this, but that is not defacto standard. It's a bold claim that might be true with Evoke, but it's not true with most parties. And we both have similar amount of parties under our belt.
2023-12-08 21:03
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11442
This was and is the case on any party i have been involved with, visitor or organiser.
2023-12-08 21:39
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 3003
Quoting wacek
Quoting chatGPZ
Compos are being created on demand. When enough ppl want to release this and that, organizers will make a compo for it.
I am sorry, maybe there were/are some parties like this, but that is not defacto standard. It's a bold claim that might be true with Evoke, but it's not true with most parties. And we both have similar amount of parties under our belt.
In which way exactly was your experience different?

What happened when you (and 2 other dudes) kindly asked for an extra compo with 3 releases in hand?
2023-12-08 21:41
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11442
It should also go without saying, that the bigger the party, the more early *before the party* you'll have to approach the organizers.
2023-12-12 00:41
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 518
Quoting Krill
In which way exactly was your experience different? What happened when you (and 2 other dudes) kindly asked for an extra compo with 3 releases in hand?
The compos did not happen. Or in case of parties like Astrosyn or Quast, compos happened but were totally ignored in results and reward ceremony.
Other times "we have no category on the vote sheet" was one of the answers.
I think you and Groepaz have goldfish memory, building your perspective on the last few years where many aspects of the scene (especially platform crossover) shifted dramatically, including approach from the organizers.
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