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2009-07-14 15:15
hevosenliha

Registered: Sep 2008
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How to use +60k expansion

Yep, as easy as that.
How do I address that extra ram?

(In fact I'm more planning to build a +60k compatible expansion, but that's another story. It's easier for me to build stuff if I know how they are supposed to work...)
 
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2009-07-15 06:18
AlexC

Registered: Jan 2008
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A bit off topic I guess but I suppose that actually Action Replay / Retro Replay internal ram is most popular memory expansion. Not useful if $dexx memory can't be used but anyway I though it was worth mentioning here as it must be more popular than +60k. It's also trivial to use.
2009-07-15 06:27
hevosenliha

Registered: Sep 2008
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Sure, I have 1541u and IDE64.
I mostly use the second one, where $dexx is occupied by lots of io-stuff like ethernet, usb and whatnot.

$d100 for enabling +60k is simple enough.
Then I have lots of free io-space to implement page selection too. The only problem is that I don't know if my cdpld (3064) is powerful enough to do that stuff. I could use more... But a +60k is easily done in one chip. (plus memory, or the built in memory of a c128)
2009-07-15 07:12
ready.

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may I ask: what software are you going to use which takes advantage of the +60k?
2009-07-15 08:17
Graham
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Quoting hevosenliha
Sure, I have 1541u and IDE64.

1541u already has a REU inside with 16 MB RAM, and 1541u also has Retro Replay cartridge emulation which has 32 kB of RAM.

I don't see why you need that +60k expansion.
2009-07-15 08:34
Mace

Registered: May 2002
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Quoting graham
I don't see why you need that +60k expansion.
My guess is: for the fun of it :)
2009-07-15 15:51
hevosenliha

Registered: Sep 2008
Posts: 48
Quote: may I ask: what software are you going to use which takes advantage of the +60k?

turbo assembler
2009-07-15 15:53
hevosenliha

Registered: Sep 2008
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Quote: Quoting hevosenliha
Sure, I have 1541u and IDE64.

1541u already has a REU inside with 16 MB RAM, and 1541u also has Retro Replay cartridge emulation which has 32 kB of RAM.

I don't see why you need that +60k expansion.


I can't use the 1541u at the same time as the ide64...
for me the 1541u is nothing but a floppy emulator.
2009-07-16 10:50
Graham
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Why not use a PC crossassembler and 1541u ethernet to transfer the assembled code directly to C64?
2009-07-16 10:58
hevosenliha

Registered: Sep 2008
Posts: 48
Quote: Why not use a PC crossassembler and 1541u ethernet to transfer the assembled code directly to C64?


mainly because my 1541u doesn't have ethernet.
but my ide64 has usb, and that way I can mount the pc right away, browsing the pc in the wonderful file manager built into ide64, just hit enter on the newly compiled file and it's started in a second.

yep, that's the thing with ide64, it makes the good old computer behave like a modern computer.

for me the 1541u is nothing but a floppy emulator for compatibility with old/bad stuff, which may not work on my c128 anyway.

turbo assembler is way better to work in than my slow asus eee pc 900 with too small keys...

2009-07-16 11:40
Graham
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old/bad stuff? Basically everything with an IRQ-loader needs a 1541 emulation. Has nothing to do with old or bad but with the inability of the standard C64 kernal to do anything else during loading.
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