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PAL
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 271 |
Vice sux these days...
....I am just a lamer so bear with me... music halts, no real frame-rate - full 50 halts now, set settings resetting to no true drive.... a big chunky graphics overlay when looking at demos in full-screen... WHY IS VICE EMULATOR SUDDENLY SHITTY TO THE POINT ONE DO NOT WANT TO USE IT ANY MORE?
It was so stable and perfect before last update... what went wrong? There are so many issues now... all things bugs in all demos and playback...
Will there be a fix it all for people like me that just happen to have a greatest ASUS laptop where everything used to work but now are just total lame in every aspect and can not get it to play right, I ask because last version worked like a charm... So utterly lame update to the latest version.
Maybe it is just me... wait, our coders and everyone have same bugs... such a terrible update... if there are some special setting to be set why do not make them the same as last version? that worked all the time with all demos? |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
"these days"? It sucked as long as I know about it.
But I was thinking, and you know what... Even beside its suckiness, it is still the best emulator for C64, and it's free - so we should be thankful for it.
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. |
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Dano
Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 231 |
As for my own thread some time ago i learnt i was about the only one (^^) who had performance issues on his ultrabook/latop. though a intel driver change did make it better i am still having issues with a proper 50fps playback of things. esspecially when there's action on the screen.
at work on my powerhouse it's better atleast.
i will try that dx primary surface thing. though i don't have any visual artifacts or anything on my systems.
from doomed via compyx i learned that the normal x64 is not supported anymore, as it does not emulate filters anymore. so one has to use x64sc for a proper playback. which is even more performance hungry.
as for the music-sid-filter playback thing on the current versions some musicians still seem to have issues..
as for the menu following the rss feed from the repo they are working on a GTK overhauled menu system.
and ofcourse it's always windows' fault when things not work properly on vice.. |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Also on MacOS High Sierra alot of applicaitons suddenly gets jerky motion, including Vice and my own apps that previously where perfectly frame synced. I wonder what the hell Apple did to fuck up the system to that point... :( |
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Bob
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 71 |
could it be Meltdown or Spectre issues that every OS tries to patch up, and the performance hit is like 30% ??? |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Quote: could it be Meltdown or Spectre issues that every OS tries to patch up, and the performance hit is like 30% ???
If it requires a round-trip to kernel-space just to sync frames then OS-makers have done something terribly wrong imo. |
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algorithm
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 705 |
I have tried Vice on various hardware and devices and some info, temporary fixes as below..
If using Vice on windows 10 (and you have creators update or higher), you can fix the full screen issue by right clicking on vice (x64sc) and disabling "full screen optimisations" in the compatibility tab. This should then allow full screen to work.
If encountering stuttering or performance issues, Having the performance set to "high performance" in windows can help on some devices. I think the fluctuation in performance dips (if you have a strong cpu) may be due to the cpu lowering down and not having enough time to rise up to high cpu loads within the emulator causing the stutters. One some devices, using the "use cpu on first core" in vice also may help.
Windows/Spectre fixes should not affect performance too much for vice in particular if you have not applied any available bios patch. You are looking at an approximate figure of 5% maximum or so. Maybe more in Windows 7. The 30% figure is the worst case scenario and usually applies to high IO usage and switching.
If the audio sounds "off" on newer builds, adjust the filter bias until it sounds better to you. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11357 |
Quote:from doomed via compyx i learned that the normal x64 is not supported anymore, as it does not emulate filters anymore.
oh jesus. please. x64 is no more supported because it is the old, outdated, not cycle exact emulator. it has NOTHING to do with filters or anything SID.
i love this kind of threads though. random people rant about random things, failing to pinpoint the problem, making random assumptions about the cause, pointing fingers, suggesting cargocult cures.
keep it coming. |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2219 |
Quote:... random people rant about random things..., making random assumptions ...
ROFL |
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Claus_2015
Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 53 |
Quoting Groepaz
Quote:suggesting cargocult cures.
*creates a SCPU of putty and sticks it to his Notebook to speedup Vice* |
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Dano
Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 231 |
Quote: Quote:from doomed via compyx i learned that the normal x64 is not supported anymore, as it does not emulate filters anymore.
oh jesus. please. x64 is no more supported because it is the old, outdated, not cycle exact emulator. it has NOTHING to do with filters or anything SID.
i love this kind of threads though. random people rant about random things, failing to pinpoint the problem, making random assumptions about the cause, pointing fingers, suggesting cargocult cures.
keep it coming.
good that problems don't exist and we are just morons using windows. that does sum up you pretty well, eh?
and things that once worked and now don't are either just moron people's problems using moron hardware and should just shut up.
right? |
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