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2005-12-27 15:17

stash
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wandere deleats warez from others!!

wtf is this. i was browsing the SWA side i found out that this
pig wanderer has deleted all of our uploaded warez.. for what reason are u so incompetent to do a demo to rag back on crudsmoker or what is ur problem.. stay away take this as a wrning,,

and to the csdb admns why don´t any one do something about this when people start deleting other peoples stuff??

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2005-12-28 19:12

Wanderer
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Quote: wanderer: number one the group is min

number 2 the demo was released under mine group

number 3 u say u didn´t delete even tough ur famous for hijacking others accounts and mess thinga up

number 4 u say u know who did it so why don´t u tell
me who it was and maybe this will come to an end

number 5 yes there is a demo under progres the group exist

number 6 u suck big time come forward u covard what are i scared of

Laszlo, I'm sorry but I can't understand a word you are saying. Please send me your address, I have a Christmas gift for you: http://tinyurl.com/cqhx2

I find it mildly amusing that you posted a message "wandere deleats warez from others" accusng me of deleting your precious demos, then a few days later you state, "but what i wanna know if u can see who did it? i started this thread after I HEARD that it was deleated"

If you are hearing things, you are either on drugs or listening to Slarti who is on drugs. According to him, all fake users are me. All fake groups are me. All deletions are me. All downvotes are me.

However when he is asked to provide proof of his dillusions, he fails. Please don't become a Slarti, we have enough sensible people on here who live in a world of facts not dillusions.

A dillusion is writing "great to see a new kid in the scene, pretty good for someone who was born when the scene was dying!" when in atual fact you ARE the person whom you are writing about. Those mushrooms are a terrible thing.

Your entries are restored, you've locked them, now maybe we can end this thread?

Peace.

2005-12-28 19:57

Six

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Weak.

These antics don't serve to improve the image of the NTSC scene one bit.

2005-12-28 20:24

Slartibartfast
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Ah, so this hasn't been dealt with after all...

2005-12-28 21:00

stash
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u can take that xmass gift and show it up ur ass.. it was ur secret friends who did it u said it ur self "i know who did it they sitt besides me" untill u don´t tell who it was u will gett the blame for it..

yes some one told me they where deleted and when i checked they where so what´s the fucking proglem...

i will end this thread when u come forward and tell me who ur cool secret friends are that deleted things

yes i asked (but not u i asked perff) if it´s possible to see who did this shit.. and i also would like to know for what reason what the fuck did i ever do to u.

yes the entries are restored after u(ur cool friends) had deleted them....

mean while u can visit http://swappaz.biz/saw.htm and give me ur adress there if u want

fuck u and have a nice life

2005-12-28 21:40

Wanderer
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Let me ask you both a question, seriously for a moment.

To me this is all a 'scene' related thing. I don't take it with me after I logout of CSDB. So when I see you making demos, groups and creating websites, I have to wonder how seriously you take these things? I will never go to the extent to create a group or a demo about you, neither of you are worth my time. I'm a litle too old for that.

Reading your website guestbook you say, "fuck wanderer u covard as mother fucker now u will see how many sceners will protect u muhahahaha". First of all I don't NEED protection. Your words don't hurt and opinions don't hurt. Secondly I think 99% of the CSDB people simply just want this to end, not continue.

This is not even including your threats of violence on the SWA part of CSDB or the death threats you emailed to me. I wonder if people who trade Beanie Babies and get into arguments would send death threats? Yes, it's *THAT* pathetic.

I'm sure Perff, who really doesn't want to become involved, could attest that on the night in question I'd been logging from an ISP not found anywhere close to my city. In actual fact I was staying with a friend who used to do graphics for me and is credited in some of my work. He has no problems with my mentioning his name, it's James and he went by the name of Commodore Convict.

To further add useless details to an already pathetic and overly dramatic story open to public display and ridicule, I was in the hottub with other partygoers and came back to find that he had deleted them. (Oh boy, we can only imagine what will appear in the next 64 disk mag)

Now you can choose two things. Accept this explanation, remove your threats and life can go on as we know it. Or don't accept it, continue to spend your time devoted to me through websites and demos. Honestly I don't care... you don't see me begging, nor will you, to stop this activity.

The concept of a 'war' on a computer is so utterly fucking pathetic that I laugh. You make demos about me, you make a group against me, people join it... but it doesn't hurt, injure or kill me.. and I've never really understood what you're trying to prove with these things. You know that I don't care about public opinion of me, that much is obvious.

So here's a great opportunity to end this stupidity. Accept the explanation, give up your S.A.W. efforts and find peace. It's getting close to New Years and I don't think you want to be sitting on here living in an 8-bit world full of anger when it strikes 2006... or do you?

As for Slarti, you have a history of making accusations you cannot prove. You claim I downvote, that I have dozens of fake accounts and that I am behind every fake group against you or every deletion there is. Yet when I ask you politely to provide proof, you say nothing. Perhaps you should gather what we call, proof... it helps build credibility.

If you will stop making such accusations, and stop trying to provoke responses through messages that come out of nowhere, such as "you are a ripper", then maybe peace can be found. I will stop making posts mentioning you or which anger you. Things were quiet for the longest time this year until you got upset over my anti-drug comments and called me a ripper.

I think perhaps Laszlo and myself can patch things up, but you seem to be unable to let go of this anger you have for me and insist on 'retribution'. But with 2006 right around the corner, there's still hope.

Case in point, I disagree with Moloch on his African American group. Yet we are still civil and can talk rationally (when I'm not around, who knows...) It's acceptable to DISAGREE with people on CSDB. Not every disagreement needs to turn into a "gee let's make demos about him because we don't agree with him" situation.

Let's see what happens... and then we can look for the 240 block issue of Vandalism news devoted entirely to this drama. :)

It's a long post but I think if you take the time to read it, you'll see this is a most reasonable and fair proposition.

2005-12-28 21:49

Slartibartfast
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This has surely gone on long enough, obviously Wanderer is very good at telling tales, and he's getting all the worse in his assurance that his behaviour is acceptable when he can get away with it by another one of his stories.

I'm sick of this melodrama, this guy has shown continually that he's not going to stop the abuse and the accusations. I won't be bothering with any magazine that gives it any further credibility either.

Have fun continuing to make a joke of this site.

2005-12-28 21:55

Wanderer
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Damian you are the one who began this crusade without even gathering any evidence as to who deleted your demo. What you want is nothing less than me to be banned completely. I don't think this realistic or even achievable. I have a 20 year (as of January 1, 2006) scene history and I do contribute a lot of uploads.

I accept you don't want a ceasefire, and that's fine. You can continue your fake SWA demos. As I said, I think Stash will be a little more reasonable and you still have a lot of issues to work out. Good luck with that.

Also don't exaggerate. I don't have any chronic CSDB abuse issues except for the 487 ones that you 'claim' were me, without proof. There are tons of unlocked files on here, some from those who disagree with me that are not vandalized.

That's all I have to say to you... now go make another demo about me.

Cheers.

2005-12-28 21:58

stash
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wanderer: all i wanted to know why and who deleted our entries
and it all started after the xmass demo which moast in the scene still think is the best xmass demo now i can´t help it that u get dissed in this demo i didn´t see it untill it was finnished..

but is that a reason for u or ur friend to delete our entries grow up man ur 30 years old i don´t know u and u don´t know me .

the web site and demos is to show the scene what u and ur cool freinds are doing not many people like u if i understand it right.

this will all end when i got an explanation from u why u(ur friend) deleted our entries that is for me verry childis behavior and i think moast people will agre with me...

so it´s now up to u will u give me a explantion for why it was deleted or should i go on,,,

regarding the threads against u in email was coz i was realy pissed off at u i usualy don´t make those kind of threads but in this caze i did for that i´m sorry if u got offended but for the rest of the story i stick to it as solid rock..

yep u can expect probably 4 disk side mag about this mess that u and ur friend started..

finnaly as i mentioned earlier i just want to know WHY ur friend did it is that so hard??

happy new year

2005-12-28 22:01

Slartibartfast
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Quote: Damian you are the one who began this crusade without even gathering any evidence as to who deleted your demo. What you want is nothing less than me to be banned completely. I don't think this realistic or even achievable. I have a 20 year (as of January 1, 2006) scene history and I do contribute a lot of uploads.

I accept you don't want a ceasefire, and that's fine. You can continue your fake SWA demos. As I said, I think Stash will be a little more reasonable and you still have a lot of issues to work out. Good luck with that.

Also don't exaggerate. I don't have any chronic CSDB abuse issues except for the 487 ones that you 'claim' were me, without proof. There are tons of unlocked files on here, some from those who disagree with me that are not vandalized.

That's all I have to say to you... now go make another demo about me.

Cheers.

You admit at least that a friend that you were at a party with accessed the gmail account, the csdb account here, and deleted the entries. However you spin it, that implicates you in the action, and the GMail thing isn't something trivial.

I never claimed you had 487 accounts, I have no idea what you are talking about.

As for your behaviour here, I think that for most it speaks for itself.

This whole melodrama is much more one sided than your spinning it, but you know what?

You fucking win Mike LaLonde, enjoy your pathetic victory over nothing. I've had enough of this ridiculous, unwarranted and unmoderated bullshit.

Until this is dealt with properly, I'm leaving. Congratulations.

2005-12-28 22:17

Wanderer
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Of course it's not one sided. I admit that I purposely try to infuriate you, but you do the same thing with the one-liners and jabs at me. But I accept that and don't resort to demos or groups.

You want nothing less than to see me deleted. Is that realistic? You want that so badly you are willing to leave CSDB until that day comes. You have said you want retribution.

Let's say that I was deleted, wouldn't that open the doors for future fake accounts? What of my many contributions to CSDB and a 20 year history? Maybe you don't care, but it does contribute to the c64 scene like it or not.

You can't get the retribution you demand so you're leaving. When you come back, and you will, remember my offer still stands.

Peace