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2003-05-11 12:04
Sad
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German thing

I only want to ask sceners from germany, why they release so much things in german language? Why they can't do it in English? In german, it will be only for german speak, but most of us can speak only english, so why they want to do things for all of us? Maybe there is still feeling in them, that they are something special and they don't want respect everyone. You know, who staretd two world wars and why!!!
 
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2003-05-16 16:22
Graham
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"...So that's two egg mayonnaise, a prawn Goebbels, a Herman Goering and four Colditz salads... no, wait a minute... I got confused because everyone keeps mentioning the war."
2003-05-16 17:08
Nafcom

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Quote: "...So that's two egg mayonnaise, a prawn Goebbels, a Herman Goering and four Colditz salads... no, wait a minute... I got confused because everyone keeps mentioning the war."


Well, I have got confused, too. I will not mention it any longer now, thanks for telling, you are right!
2003-05-16 17:13
Nafcom

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Quote: There wasn't anything to understand as such, that's just a quote from the sitcom Fawlty Towers... Speaking of what things mean, did you know that "naff" (how i subconsciously pronounce the first half of your handle) is English slang and can mean either "unstylish, clichéd, or outmoded", "to fool around or go about" or can be used as a dismissal as in "naff off"...?

Yep, I know.

Here is the explaination from dictionary:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=naff

Well, but "Nafcom" is coming from this:

"Fan" <- reverse order is: "Naf". First three letters is: "c-o-m." = Nafcom! :)

Well, it's easy, isn't it?! :)

Well, hope I am not such a naff, even.

But interesting thing, thanks!

2003-05-16 17:44
T.M.R
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And congratulations to Graham for knowing the routine better than i do... =-)
2003-05-17 10:14
Sad
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It's nice, that few sceners gave me the worst vote for me as musician after I started this discussion. I don't think, that they ever heard tune from me. If you think, that this discussion is so stupid, don't look at it and don't write, it is the best instrument how to stop it. That sentence of WW2 in my first text was written only for remit to german feeling, that they are something special. I sorely know that from my life. Maybe the best will be, when you ask your grandfather, how he felt it when he crushed down our country with gun in his hand.
2003-05-17 11:10
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
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SAD. I respect you as a scener and musician but this is enough.

For your own sake stop making fool of yourself. Nobody is interested in your offtopic and historically incompetent babbling. Please get back when you calm down and try to write serious C64 related stuff.

Roman
2003-05-17 11:46
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
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Personally I don't see how long past history is relevent. Some Germans here are very helpful in many ways and communicate in english - the langauge of the people that bombed Germany and stole some technologies. Why do you want to use english as G. W. Bush uses it (and past USA presidents) who have issued bombings of a number of places around the world.... Get over it. If we still react on all history then no one would talk to anyone.

For the record I do get jealous at some nice stuff written in non english that I cannot read but I get over it. there isn't too much non english where there is no suitable english equivalent.
2003-05-17 12:04
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
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Just to make one thing clear: I don't mind at all being confronted with recent German history. In Germany we're struggling hard NOT to forget what happened a couple of decades ago, despite a small percentage of people that would like to close the topic once and forever. But that's not the point.
It just doesn't belong in here as the C64 scene is a global, multinational and mostly nonpolitical community, isn't it.
2003-05-17 12:40
T.M.R
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Sad: the way i see it, you owe the Germans an apology because you're attempting to stereotype them against something that the majority of them don't *want* to be based on events some sixty years ago. You also owe Puterman an apology for threatening violence against him when *you* misunderstood what he said.

My country invented the language you want everyone to use and the only reason it's so widespread is because we can't be bothered to learn any *other* language so we expect it to be a constant. And of course, we all shout slowly at Johnny Foreigner until he understands us and we live on fish and chips when on holiday in Spain. Sarcasm aside, the British empire managed to take in a lot of land and oppress a lot of people and i hope to hell people don't judge me on my ancestors being bastards in the same way you feel the Germans should be.

You say that you mentioned the second world war because of your opinion of "german feeling" and that you believe they feel "that they are something special" but *you're* the one wanting to get them to change which language they use - how arrogant is that?! i've already said it, but here we go again - Sad, you're making yourself look an arse.
2003-05-17 13:44
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
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This turned out to become a fight and philosophy thing. Some people are sounding like a PhD.

And once again: Thanks for fighting/protecting us! :)
Well, we can't change the past, of course, but I am not a grandfather and I didn't choose where to see the light when I was born.
And well, I use English just to speak to everyone, and I am not stereotypically thinking in any way.
I spoke to many people around the globe (non C64 sceners) and of course some dislike me, because I Am German, but I think that's only making sad and it's not fair!

I don't think Germans are good English speakers (to come back to the original topic), but we speak English aswell.

Meanwhile many countries claim to have English as mother tongue (official, some countries have 2-3 mother tongues), this is defined by their goverment. One of such examples is China, Malaysia, Japan.

But I have to admit, I found it (in my area) impossible to buy and cards in English language!!!

Well, I find some comments of you Sad and also of Puterman really strange here. And TMR is fighting great for us, thanks! :)

That's it here.
Joerg
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