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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
Player detection for sidplay...
Hmmm, shouldn't it possible to include a kind of player detection in sidplay?
Plus a detection of the speed? (2x, 3x,...8x...)
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Quote: There were many people doing music in Hubbards player.
Among the more famous early ones is Jeroen Kimmel (Red) of The Judges.
Check out Crazy Sample II or Red Hubbard for example.
All done in a ml-monitor ofcourse, but that's the way you did it too Laxity, no? :)
Yeah, in a looserish machine code monitor. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
And let me guess, that ML monitor wasn't coded by you either...! Sheesh, how lame can you get! ;-) |
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Raf
Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 343 |
Quote: Hmm. VacSID sounds good.. :D
Why not make a Windows port?
you're starting to call requests just like Ramos do... go learn programming yourself man ;-) |
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
Funny to see how people try to justify this kind of abuse.
But that's no surprise! As I have expected - only ignorance!
I guess 80's scene was mainly a cracker scene (get commercial software for free)
Sure, at the time I wasn't in 'scene', but I'm proud that I never owned any stolen software (or pieces of it).
The point is that people (obviously not only Laxity) used Hubbards property to use it for own purposes. I guess that nobody gave Hubbard money for using his routine?. Hmmm?
Gave he an 'OK' for that? Hmmm? Just consider which financial "disadvantages" you & others caused...
It's a different thing if someone uses Hubbards player in 1987 or in 2006. In this case we can tell that it was another time. It was a time where a lot people had to earn money with c64 computers.
It's a difference if someone uses software with 'public domain' or Freeware status. You explicitly have the permission from the author to use it.
However, why I waste time to tell you this? I don't know...
I guess the most people (just look to the "what's your age" thread) here are old enough to understand what I mean. :)
Personally I have nothing against Laxity (or his music). I don't know him and probably never will see him outside virtual reality. (@laxity, I guess you are an "OK" man, aren't you?) :)
Anyway, it doesn't bother me if the whole c64-scene hates me now. I can live with that. :P
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057 |
Quote: Funny to see how people try to justify this kind of abuse.
But that's no surprise! As I have expected - only ignorance!
I guess 80's scene was mainly a cracker scene (get commercial software for free)
Sure, at the time I wasn't in 'scene', but I'm proud that I never owned any stolen software (or pieces of it).
The point is that people (obviously not only Laxity) used Hubbards property to use it for own purposes. I guess that nobody gave Hubbard money for using his routine?. Hmmm?
Gave he an 'OK' for that? Hmmm? Just consider which financial "disadvantages" you & others caused...
It's a different thing if someone uses Hubbards player in 1987 or in 2006. In this case we can tell that it was another time. It was a time where a lot people had to earn money with c64 computers.
It's a difference if someone uses software with 'public domain' or Freeware status. You explicitly have the permission from the author to use it.
However, why I waste time to tell you this? I don't know...
I guess the most people (just look to the "what's your age" thread) here are old enough to understand what I mean. :)
Personally I have nothing against Laxity (or his music). I don't know him and probably never will see him outside virtual reality. (@laxity, I guess you are an "OK" man, aren't you?) :)
Anyway, it doesn't bother me if the whole c64-scene hates me now. I can live with that. :P
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Yes, there are a few other tools that allow to detect the players.
Gotta send you a PM |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
lets just hope using tasm isnt too much of an act of piracy |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
@Nata: Remember the average age and intentions (fun, not financial gain!) of scene people ripping players back then, and maybe you'll better understand how your opinion may be considered harsh and unwise. |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Quoting nataJust consider which financial "disadvantages" you & others caused...
Now that you have to explain to me, because i fail to see the damage laxity did by reverse engeneering rob hubbads player for no commercial gain (tunes used in demos).
Or did i miss the part where laxity made it to fame and fortune with those particular tunes and shamelessly deprived rob hubbard of all the shitloads of money he got out of it.
In that case, youre right and we're all fools. But, i doubt that seriously.
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
Quote: Quoting nataJust consider which financial "disadvantages" you & others caused...
Now that you have to explain to me, because i fail to see the damage laxity did by reverse engeneering rob hubbads player for no commercial gain (tunes used in demos).
Or did i miss the part where laxity made it to fame and fortune with those particular tunes and shamelessly deprived rob hubbard of all the shitloads of money he got out of it.
In that case, youre right and we're all fools. But, i doubt that seriously.
I think, I've already stated that in the post above! |
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TNT
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Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 189 |
Quoting nataI'm proud that I never owned any stolen software (or pieces of it).
I guess you mean "copied" software, not actually "stolen" which involves physical media which you literally take away from it's owner?
Covering other people music and distributing it without license is just as much copyright infingement as is using other people's code without their pemission. I think the word usually used for copyright infringement is "piracy". |
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