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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1089 |
blue wins, moderators must improve, baracuda out
I understand that the fresh moderation team needs to find its way around how to properly moderate here, so mistakes are made and that's fine.
However, I'm getting a bit tired of the trigger happy thread-closers, especially when the first bans *must* be discussed properly to find out if the correct course of action was taken or not and if the majority agrees with the action taken.
It's starting to look like moderator X gets tired of explaining things, so he closes a thread where a certain ban *should* be explained. Nothing in the now closed thread was out of line and an honest request for more info, and after *finally* giving full info you close it immediately. I think that's completely wrong.
If you guys keep this up, more ppl will leave. |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
I can only say I agree fully with the actions taken by the moderators, though I was never involved directly in the Baracuda case. One less troll and thread saboteur around. Now it'll perhaps be possible to read the forum once again.
The moderators should only have to explain their actions when their reasons aren't obvious, i.e. when they ban someone who isn't acting like a complete and utter tool. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
i have to totally agree with the topic :) |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
One more thing, as I am a bit interested in the techical side of the bans...
I assume it's IP based. And if so, isn't it just too easy to find a anonymous proxy and login with a different username?
Furthermore, if it's IP based and if an IP-range is banned, I'm wondering how it is handled when some people come from the same IP-range (e.g. Dafunk and I)? |
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The Communist
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 485 |
IP Ranges ??? Either you are weird or i am too dumb to understand you. Not the ip range or number got banned but the login of Baracuda. So no need of anonymous proxys. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quote: IP Ranges ??? Either you are weird or i am too dumb to understand you. Not the ip range or number got banned but the login of Baracuda. So no need of anonymous proxys.
Well I don't know at all, that's why I'm asking. I recall someone mentioning the IP-ban in an older thread but it might be I'm wrong or don't remember right...
So if only the account is closed, what holds back a banned person from opening another user and continue with the trolling? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
Quote:So if only the account is closed, what holds back a banned person from opening another user and continue with the trolling?
new accounts are manually verified (just try creating a fake account for yourself and see how far you are getting with that *grins*) |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quote: Quote:So if only the account is closed, what holds back a banned person from opening another user and continue with the trolling?
new accounts are manually verified (just try creating a fake account for yourself and see how far you are getting with that *grins*)
I already have one :)
Used it only for a while a really long time ago when I forgot my password and thought it will be easier to open a new account than to bug Perff to reset/resend it. Then I accidentally run into a note with my pass and got back to this one. So it's _that_ easy :) |
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The Communist
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 485 |
As you said it. You used/created your accound a long time ago. Things can change like they did. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Thank you gentlemen, my curiosity is more than satisfied! :) |
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Tim
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467 |
Well.. there is one thing that really does worry me a lot, I do not want to start a discussion here, but maybe take 5 seconds to think of it from my point of view before you think I am just bitching here;
This forum is scene related.. granted, we are a extremely mixed people, mostly of a generation of kids that thrived on either the cracking or demo scene. At least, these two parts of our scene are either the only side most of you like to acknowledge or sometimes even the only two parts of the scene that you know.
Have you ever stopped to realize that there are many sub-scenes running in the meantime? And/or that these scenes did not always follow the exact rules of our cracking or demo scene?
I can give a very good example here, take the german paper magazine Computer Flohmarkt.
It is just one of the very many entry points that led people into our beloved scene.
My personal opinion aside about this niche part of our scene (I simply did not like it in the past), I simply can not refuse that it was not part of our scene and I can not refuse that a lot of current sceners have roots there.
All I care about is protecting our history as at least do many of you that disagree with me on other points, but Ive seen it happen now several times; the general attitude of this forum is becoming more and more aggressive towards people that do not fall into the major categories here and/or do not follow standard protocol.. Ok, so we do not want this place to become lemonish apparently fine, at least then point people in that direction kindly and/or if someone does have history and files to add to our database respect that these people sometimes can fall outside the usual majority opinion and take the good with the bad.
Seriously, if you were non c64 related.. how would you think of a 30+ year old spending his precious spare-time collecting and restoring 20 year old pieces of software? These people must be nuts! ;) and guess what.. they mostly are strange and sometimes do not have the best social skills.
Sorry, but in my opinion the whole barracuda issue is such a perfect example of mixed arrogance and pride from both sides of the line, that in real life it could have been solved with a single damn telephone call.. I just wish I had caught onto it sooner as I know a lot of the people involved, I am sure I could have settled it easily, so I blame myself for not taking action sooner :(
As for the need to explain the ban being obvious or not (just reacting on Radiantx message) sorry, but this being more or less a precedent for future possible future actions I also wanted to know the exact why and how since this mod-team is young and in learning. I hope you can understand that as much as I understand why it for you was obvious.
Cheers
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