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SIDWAVE
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Gravenreuth
What exactly did this man do as a lawyer ?
Any clue why he shot himself ?
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11510 |
or in other words: life fucked him from behind with a strap on.
finally.
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Marauder/GSS
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Posts: 224 |
yep... maybe conscience-stricken... :P |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1990 |
Non germans might like the trivia:
Gravenreuth was one of the very first (early 1986 I assume) lawyers in germany messing(*) with copyright issues on a large scale and even sent letters (of course no disks) to potential swappers and ask them for game copies. Adding girlie pictures and letters making answers more likely - which of course led to a notice you had to sign and pay for the efforts. If you refused you'd be taken to court. Something many will never forget are the luring wrong letters in the first place though.
In his "career" he was a true scener indeed and attended several parties though he didnt release much.
C64, Amiga, PC and net community - to me it seems he just left out consoles.
* messing = getting doubtful laws apply to early copyright infringements, have it fixed by a smaller courts (references) and such - when these issues were so new mostly that very early laws just didnt apply or were insufficient
And my personal opinion if anybody cares: rot in hell, bastard! Even catholics can hardly speak against that since suicide is a sin. :)
He let the cops bust my board 17 years ago and ever since I had to resist from making illegal backups of software just to stay clean. Busted for Amiga AGA *Patches* - pffff!
No - he didnt get any money from me but the defending lawyer got a little.
l8r
Count Zero/CyberpunX/SCS*TRC |
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iopop
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317 |
Count Zero: Thanx for the 64'er scans.
Quite impressive and scary that he continued with the 'tanja' letters on the c64 in 94, even after 64'er had a large article series about him in 93.
Two dutch articles covering that "holland-connection"
http://www.trouw.nl/krantenarchief/1994/07/23/2642540/_Nou_doei..
http://www.trouw.nl/krantenarchief/1994/08/11/2645659/Duitse_co.. |
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Marauder/GSS
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Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 224 |
ha, never saw this Kill Guenni before... must be 90's or?
guess he was faster then... |
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The MeatBall
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 377 |
There's also the group Gravenreuth Abolishing Youth (Gravenreuth Abolishing Youth), that released Kill Gravenreuth back in 1989, so I gather Günni wasn't too popular in the scene :D |
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goto80
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 140 |
Eternal Fame for whoever puts English subtitles on the MWS-video! I wanna knoooow. Or. Eternal Glory for whoever dubs it :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11510 |
its really not that interisting as it looks like. basically its
mws: "crackers are cracking for fun and fame"
and
günni: "crackers are the source for warez and therefor evil"
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r242
Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 90 |
Listen to the audience when Günni talks about having busted German Cracking Service. They are REALLY impressed ... haha |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11510 |
wasnt even one of them in the audience? |
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