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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680 |
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Why do some of you hide your votes? HMM? this makes no sense. And stop downvoting people just because you do not like them.
This database is supposed to be accurate, not a place for you to continue with your stupid grudges and scene wars.
a note to perff: since Secret Man, WDR etc have been deleted from this, I think you should also remove all their votes.
and get rid of this hidden voting, if people cannot publicy stand by their vote choices, then they shouldn't be voting at all.
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3052 |
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In the end you get get fairer results even for small ammount of votes.
no, you will give more impact to votes by people who are most liked, and take power from people who are disliked.
i would not call that "fair". i would call it up- and down voting =)
it doesn't work like this. ;-) it's an intertwined system.. if you simulated it in the reality it would be self-healing. If someone with big trust (e.g. CreaMD) uses his account to upvote and downvote.. then someone else who disagrees with his judgement can lower his trust to the user. The trust develops over the time. Also e.g. CreaMD is the most popular and gives someone unpopular (e.g. Groepaz) trust.. it can increase Groepaz's trust too.. such move can have interesting results on the whole system. I can't preditct how it ends but what I wanted to point out is ,that trust-distrust generally gives healthy results. Especially when it's assured that voters are existing persons (and not fake accounts). Of course this is also hypothetical, because I'm for sure be somewhere in the middle. You too, I suppose ;-). Someone like Zyron, Jazzcat, TMR and such more or less non-conflicting and respected persons would get the most trust. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
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it doesn't work like this. ;-)
yes it does, no matter how fancy the way of distributing "trust" is, it boils down to: i like this person, let's give his votes more power. i dislike this person, let's take power from him.
it might be a way to make the result a little bit more "healthy" (mind you, not "fair") - but it still doesnt solve the problem at all, which is like yago said: too few votes.
i'd still say: increase the amounts of votes needed before a result is calculated to a reasonable amount, and a lot of the problems discussed over and over will be gone. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3052 |
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it doesn't work like this. ;-)
yes it does, no matter how fancy the way of distributing "trust" is, it boils down to: i like this person, let's give his votes more power. i dislike this person, let's take power from him.
it might be a way to make the result a little bit more "healthy" (mind you, not "fair") - but it still doesnt solve the problem at all, which is like yago said: too few votes.
i'd still say: increase the amounts of votes needed before a result is calculated to a reasonable amount, and a lot of the problems discussed over and over will be gone.
It's an intertwined system and yes it's not the ultimate solution, but it's easier to get trust rank of hundreds of active voters (and correct annomalies if necessary) than get hundreds of votes for every important release.
You will never get enough votes for some relases.. you will actually never get any votes for most. Just accept it ;-)
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
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You will never get enough votes for some relases.. you will actually never get any votes for most. Just accept it ;-)
yes, and thus the charts will always be flawed. live with it.
mmmmh wait, did i say that before? =P |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3052 |
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You will never get enough votes for some relases.. you will actually never get any votes for most. Just accept it ;-)
yes, and thus the charts will always be flawed. live with it.
mmmmh wait, did i say that before? =P
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
You could just remove the entire voting system and charts, that would fix everything!!!!1 :) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: You could just remove the entire voting system and charts, that would fix everything!!!!1 :)
I can do you one better: if we completely remove csdb from the internet we wouldn't have to deal with people fucking stuff up here!
Holla! |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 946 |
I'm still waiting for my leader TDJ, whom I trust because of the decades of subliminal messages, to give me the instruction to downvote all citizens of CSDb he dislikes most. |
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yago
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333 |
CreaMD: People dont vote enough. Now you want to improve the system, by letting the people vote other people?
And what groepaz said, the numbers are so low, that you cant really use them for any statistics or improvement thereof.
Hell, on every party, there are more voters then for most of the top100 demos here.
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3052 |
Quote: CreaMD: People dont vote enough. Now you want to improve the system, by letting the people vote other people?
And what groepaz said, the numbers are so low, that you cant really use them for any statistics or improvement thereof.
Hell, on every party, there are more voters then for most of the top100 demos here.
Yago. Yes. as I said.
There is is only few hundreds (?) active voters in CSDB. There is no need to maintain relationship (give trust) with inactive users. For example if we have 500 active users there is no need to have complete 500 relationship per user for 500 active users. What such algorithm does is giving the rank of highest and lowest trust based upon trust-distrust relationship.
Why is it so hard for to understand difference between counting weight in advance instead of dreaming about having enough votes for every single item here?
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