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Darkus
Registered: Apr 2007
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Coding for beginners
I`ve been searching the net for assembler guides and applications but I hoping someone can recommend the best guides and programs I should use for starting out - plus are there any issues with using emulators only ? Anyone who may answer these questions, please bare in mind I know very little about the C64 platform at this stage :) |
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T.M.R
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Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Whats wrong with a monitor to write code its what I have always used and always will because it is a challenge, not going for some kind o assembler which I think is the easy way out for some people to writer there so called creation. swtich to the `machine code monitor` you will get better satisfaction! I will take note of your comments and see what I can ajust or alter in my coding.
Beginners already have a challenge called "learning 6502 machine code", they don't need a second challenge of working in a harsh environment to go with that. |
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omega120
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You think its harsh to code using a monitor I dont think so Ive been coding for years using a monitor you should test your strength on it! |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
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Monitor programming doesn't seem practical for coding games, assembler will give you more freedom to experiment with the game, instead of the code. |
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omega120
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I looked at assembler and thought the idea was crap and went immediately back to my ACTION REPLAY monitor. that was years ago and I am still using the A.R. monitor for coding. |
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T.M.R
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Quote: You think its harsh to code using a monitor I dont think so Ive been coding for years using a monitor you should test your strength on it!
i've written projects in a monitor, my strength isn't in question here; it's beginners trying to make head or tail of 6502 machine code whilst being thrown in at the deep end. A monitor is a hostile environment for a new programmer, an assembler at least lets people forget about learning hex to begin with, they all support decimal. |
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omega120
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Hostile enviroment I dont think so I self taught my self reading hex monitor code and I found the language dead simple once I got the hang of it as with assembler I could not get a hold of it either here nor there I found the system very hard to grip on yes I would opt for the learner on c64 machine code to go for the monitor action any day. |
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T.M.R
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So that's you in the monitor camp and almost everyone else in the assembler camp... |
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omega120
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People can go what ever they want to go. |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
I used to program in Turbo Assembler all the time, but now I use the ACME cross assembler, because the limitations are stronger. Turbo Assembler used to be good, but now we program C64 stuff on a PC, so I recommend anyone else to try this.
Someone pointed this type of advice to me. I cannot remember who introduced me to the ACME cross assembler environment but I think it is great and feel very comfortable with it. Easy to handle as well. :) |
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