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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5096 |
Release id #237162 : Tribute to Vangelis
@4gent,
1) feels you took those quotes out of context
2) I even said to 2 girls on the schoolyard when I was 9 that I'm never gonna have sex because its disgusting
3) Talent added so much of his own, that I consider it an original work, Vermeer traced outlines with pinhole camera, Talent used another work for reference I couldnt care less. |
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LMan
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 83 |
It is okay if we wish to set a new standard.
It is bad, and massively unfair, to single out any past release and hold it to that new standard. Here it must not matter how long ago the past release was.
As stated, I agree with those wanting to set up new rules for sources-listig, something which I always took great care of doing on my own project.
However I strongly reject the way it is fought out above Talent's Vangelis picture.
I am an atheist, but I always liked the "who is without sin may throw first" sentiment. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5096 |
Quote: Heh, you missed the tutorial video from the original 3D artist?
Hey, did you missed that electric fabricated a picture and presented it as the original? Sander even fell for it and then claimed that Talent lied using several pictures for the portrait. Nice job guys. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954 |
Quote: Hey, did you missed that electric fabricated a picture and presented it as the original? Sander even fell for it and then claimed that Talent lied using several pictures for the portrait. Nice job guys.
Heh, that's funny. Unless Talent is Vahid Ahmadi. |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1337 |
BTW, Electric's initial assumption was that Talent's effort is automatized and not how many references he used so eventually you guys started to accuse of multiple random things for the sake of winning little rhetoric battles hence it all quickly veered from the actual problem. Amrite? |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
@Hein
Quote: Heh, that's funny. Unless Talent is Vahid Ahmadi.
Now, that, sir, would be some serious, genius even, piece of mindf*ckery. Makes me wish it were so. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954 |
Quote: BTW, Electric's initial assumption was that Talent's effort is automatized and not how many references he used so eventually you guys started to accuse of multiple random things for the sake of winning little rhetoric battles hence it all quickly veered from the actual problem. Amrite?
I wouldn't dare to summarize this thread. :) But the process from 3D original to C64, yes, that's interesting. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
@Jammer
Who exactly do you refer to by “you guys”?
I’m under the impression that there are 2 guys from Censor on one “side”, and a whole bunch of people that basically have no “side”. Only those two are for some reason so aggressive that almost everyone decided to better just shut up. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I’m in my ‘bubble’, separated from reality. I don’t exclude that possibility. In all this Talent is curiously absent, I kinda hope he’s preparing a big, argumented response. |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1337 |
Or he'll give up any interaction here after rather persistent public ostracism - also a likely option. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
@Jammer
Yeah, I’m affraid so too. That’s why I said that his “advocates” are not doing him a favour by heavily stepping up the shittyness of the conversation. |
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Clarence
Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 121 |
@Sander
"But, as Electric exposed Talent’s denial of using 1 reference, I feel Talent was trying to trick us into believing otherwise. That is a very ugly lie in my book. And makes me question his other work, forever."
That's a bit steep to say that, don't you think? Electric exposed nothing. Talent said "I used about 5-6 photos from net to create this original portrait". Maybe badly worded, so it can be misinterpreted, but he means the full portrait which contains 3 parts: the keyboard, the head and the cloudy backdrop. That's at least 3 references. Maybe he merged the keyboard from multiple images for the chord to show pressed. Is he trying to trick us? |
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