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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Cooperations
I was going to submit some cracks from Ikari+Talent when I noticed to my surprise that there's no entry for this coop yet.
What's the though about this? Should I add I+T as a new group or should I credit all I+T cracks to both groups?
I'd say a new group is needed to make it easier to find the releases from the coop more easily.
There's already a couple of other coops added, such as Success + The Ruling Company, <group id=843>, WOW+ROLE. |
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Dishy
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 241 |
I´ve been thinking about adding the Ikari+Talent coop from time to time, but never did anything about it. Many members from Ikari and also some members from Talent have been here at CSDb, and I wonder, why none of them have ever added the cooperation..
Anyway, lot´s of co-ops are missing then, as many groups had some shorter co-ops in periods. Just to mention a few from the cracking scene. Deadline was in co-op with Project-X in 91/92 and with Arcade in 92.
Later Deadline was also in co-op with Genetix, and also my ex. group Vision was in co-op with Genetix for a short period, where I remember they released lot´s of cracks together with the cracker DMC/Genetix/Illusion.. (http://intros.c64.org/intros/vsn_gtx-01.gif)
Some of the co-op info I´ve added at many of the groups profiles, as I wasn´t sure, if I thought the cooperations should actually be added as one group...
Guess that depends....
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Dishy
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 241 |
Not to forget Acrise+Varsity(probably in the end of 1991/start 1992), Acrise+Excess, Hysteric+Insiders, Holocaust+Fresh etc. etc. etc.
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iopop
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317 |
isnt there a big difference in co-ops like TRSI, SCS+TRC and I+T in the meaning that they ended up as one group. Comparing shorter co-ops, whereas the lifespan was just as long as one of the groups continued to supply games or whatever the deal was.
Altough, Talent did return some years after....
What I try to say with this is that maybe not every co-op should be added as a new group? |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Quote: isnt there a big difference in co-ops like TRSI, SCS+TRC and I+T in the meaning that they ended up as one group. Comparing shorter co-ops, whereas the lifespan was just as long as one of the groups continued to supply games or whatever the deal was.
Altough, Talent did return some years after....
What I try to say with this is that maybe not every co-op should be added as a new group?
I totally agree. |
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H.O
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 70 |
IMO, a group is a group and coop is a coop. Productions should be credited to groups, and not to coops, but released by coops.
For example, if Doc of Ikari cracked something while they were in coop with Talent, the crack should be labelled both under Ikari and Talent, but the cracking credit should be "Doc of Ikari"
It's a cooperation between two groups, not a new group. |
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Earthshaker
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 118 |
Quote: IMO, a group is a group and coop is a coop. Productions should be credited to groups, and not to coops, but released by coops.
For example, if Doc of Ikari cracked something while they were in coop with Talent, the crack should be labelled both under Ikari and Talent, but the cracking credit should be "Doc of Ikari"
It's a cooperation between two groups, not a new group.
I agree with HO. Maybe some new option should be made to link 2 groups together in the period that they had the coop. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote: I agree with HO. Maybe some new option should be made to link 2 groups together in the period that they had the coop.
"We planned that for version 2.0"
Hehehe :)
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
What Earthshaker suggests is a good idea. However, since we don't have such a feature right now I think that long living coops deserve an own entry since that makes it easier to separate the coop releases from the individual group releases. Just adding two groups as authors of an entry doesn't necesarily make it a coop, one example is imported releases. |
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Tch
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Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512 |
I have added some Brutal+Dunex cracks myself.
Credited both groups for the release.
It was stricktly a cracking-coop, so I don´t think it deserves a new entry.
Maniac had quit the scene and R.C.S. got a lot of originals,so he basically gave them to Spikes to crack them.
Hmm,Ikari+Talent..
I´d say, no new entry.
Credit the cracker and maybe add a Trivia to both groups when they went into coop.
Should make things easy enough to search the database. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Well, in a way I agree...but that should mean that NO coops were alloved an own entry. So we'll need to split coops like Tristar & Red Sector Inc., Success + The Ruling Company, <group id=843>, WOW+ROLE, Pioneers+The Guardian Angels, The Ruling Company+The Blasters Incorporated. |
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