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The Shadow
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304 |
Repeal Anonymous Voting
Anonymous voting allows cowards to abuse the voting system. People downvote like sneaky little bastards. If you are voting for a person, group or release and you feel that your particular vote is how you honestly feel then there is no reason to conceal your vote. Repealing anonymous voting would weed out a large portion of the downvoters. |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
I think the problem is that there's anonymous voting. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359 |
anonymous voting can only ever be a problem for those who think they feel better if they can complain and/or take revenge on whoever voted something they dont agree with. ie: butthurt. |
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Glasnost
Account closed
Registered: Aug 2011
Posts: 26 |
If you have a voting system, it might as well be fair.
Heres a suggestion.
In some sports the best and the worst grade is removed, and then the score is based on the average of the last 3-4 judges.
Maybe if the system took out the worst and best 10%, alot of crap would be filtered out. Eg. Deus Ex Machina and Andropolis has a few severe downvoters.. No mentally healthy people would rate them a 1/10...
Best regards, Glasnost |
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Twoflower
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434 |
So, let people keep their anonymous voting. I'm not suggesting removal as people obviously find it to be a splendid idea to let a minority abuse the votesystem - I just want to be able to ignore all the anonymous votes and set my view to "only view registered votes".
So, how about adding something like "WHERE voter.id <> -1 AND loggedinuser.showanonymous = FALSE" to the code?
That way us grumpy old whiners can filter out the anonymous voters. |
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Testa
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 197 |
anonymous voting is lame.. dont you have the balls to show your selfs?... come on... life and die like a man!
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1408 |
Eh, it'd be interesting to have two scores for each production (one including anons, one not). Better yet, to see a scatter plot of one against the other, to see if it really affects the rankings, or just adds an overall bias.
As for upvotes and down votes, as various people have said they tend to be drowned out if enough people vote sensibly. I do prefer having a range of possible votes over a simple like/dislike.
Perhaps an alternate "solution" would be to place more weight on votes in the middle of the range? Either with something coarse like an interquartile mean (though this would be pretty meaningless if there are only a few votes), or something more sophisticated like sorting all the votes into order, and weighting each vote by (eg) t*(1-t), where t is (sorted vote index+0.5)/votecount.
The current weighting system is really quite mysterious; I'm pretty sure I've seen a production's score decrease after someone added a vote higher than the previous score..
(ETA haha, I should have hit refresh before posting on a page I loaded hours ago. Credit to Glasnost for suggesting much the same idea as my proposed solution. Down with outliers!) |
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Testa
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 197 |
live and die like a man!..
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
I don't want public voting to take revenge, but because people generally act differently in public than in private. So I predict that most unreasonable votes will disappear by themselves. Personally I couldn't care less about rankings and stuff like that these days, but e.g. for CSDB-based compos it's a shame to see anonymous downvoters trying to screw with the results. |
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Ejner
Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 43 |
Being fairly new on CSDb and kindof re-entering the c64 scene here, I quickly noticed just how competitive the c64 scene seems to be around here. Competition is ok for those who wish to compete, but others might just want some good old c64 fun without being judged. Making votes optional for each release could be an idea? Or replace them with "likes"? which is more supportive rather than the low anonymous demoralising votes.
And as mentioned by many others, the anonymous votes often aren't fair, it seems there is some serious downvoting going on, but seemingly also some upvoting on own or groupmember's releases is taking place... Good for the big groups of course, but not really objective is it?
I too am a big fan of transparent, fair voting.
Just my 2 cents... |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359 |
<Post edited by chatGPZ on 28/2-2013 23:45>
Quote:for CSDB-based compos it's a shame to see anonymous downvoters trying to screw with the results
that however is the fault of those who think csdb is a suitable platform to organize voting for a compo. (interestingly, voting at most other compos is anonymous too... strange eh) |
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