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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
C64 demos are lame
@Doom^IRIS
It turns out there are no average people. And I wouldn't say current Amiga releases aren't interesting. They're sort of in between PC releases and C64 ones, for better or worse. At least Amiga demos don't make your ears bleed, and you can actually tell one effect apart from the next when watching an Amiga production. Mind you I've seen some jaw-dropping C64 stuff, but not at any parties I've been to recently.
The C64 community may now hate me if they are so inclined. Go on, you can do it. I know you're angry. And anger leads to hate. Hate leads to hatred. Hatred leads to malice. Malice leads to enmity. Enmity leads to repugnance. Repugnance leads to bitterness. And it sort of stops there because my thesaurus sucks.
Really, C64 demos are lame. It's like they all use the same palette, and only like 16 cols or summin. Like a little bit of originality would kill you. I also think if the C64 coders knew more about cache optimization, that'd help a lot. And I hate how AHX is so popular on the C64. I mean, it's a nice sound and all, but really, it's been done too much already.
http://pouet.net/topic.php?which=33 |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
"Really, C64 demos are lame. It's like they all use the same palette, and only like 16 cols or summin. Like a little bit of originality would kill you."
LOL, best bashing of C64 demos ever.
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
There are 16 colours on c64?
Damn, I think I've only used about 7 of them in my demos :( |
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TWR
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 187 |
You only need 3 colors:
Black,White and Red.
;-) |
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T.M.R
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Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 749 |
S'funny, i rarely seem to use dark red... dark green either come to think of it, i have to force myself to use 'em to get all 16 colours into a picture!! |
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468 |
That person is amusing :)
Damn us and our AHX music :( |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
hahaha rotfl
the fact that ppl like this are actually allowed to vote for c64 demos at parties is scary though. |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
so it is true that children are unable to understand irony |
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Motion
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Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 69 |
...er, like what's irony? ;)
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
that someone reads something at pouet and takes it seriously? :o) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
so it is true that some needs to hide behind words while telling ppl they are stupid. |
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Britelite
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 51 |
so it is true that some people do a good job making themselves look stupid |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3051 |
Quote: ...er, like what's irony? ;)
Later 2 paragraphs. That 2nd one is especially nice. Reminds me of pirate insults in The Secret Of Monkey island series. Although they wouldn't have chance to pronouce such a long ones (and with dictionary in hand) while sword-fighting. Anyway, I like it. Nice kick. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
thank god, I wont visit X this year. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote: thank god, I wont visit X this year.
Why's that, Z?
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
"I also think if the C64 coders knew more about cache optimization, that'd help a lot"
Why didn't we think of this?
Doh! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
if only you wouldnt always use the same boring ahx crap :( |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Sorry.. I never meen to but it always ends up like that... |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
C64 demos are lame!?
Jeez I did the wrong choice in my life, and only now I can see the Light. How did I make it possible to happen?
Tnx Doom^IRIS you improved my approach to the real world. |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
Hahaha. I actually thought he was serious until that stuff about cache optimization. :-D |
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274 |
well, since when is someone taking persons with a newbie nick naming like "Doom^IRIS" seriously?
At least C64 coders don't need extra hardware to pose :)
Maybe he has some kind of lense flare on his iris?
who cares anyway, Amigascene never was as cool as C64,
it is just pure envy, that he could not be one of those coolies...
and...
a big LOL ->
http://www.irishq.dk/html/cupid.shtml
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
with heart core being one of my favourite demos i do envy both his graphics and coding skills |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote: with heart core being one of my favourite demos i do envy both his graphics and coding skills
He was just pulling Oswald's leg.
Come on!
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3051 |
Quote: with heart core being one of my favourite demos i do envy both his graphics and coding skills
Is there any chance to see it online on some video? Please post link if possible. Thanx. |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
Quote: Is there any chance to see it online on some video? Please post link if possible. Thanx.
sure, http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=12041 or go straight to http://www.scene.org/file.php?file=%2Fparties%2F2004%2Fbreakpoi.. |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
Quote: He was just pulling Oswald's leg.
Come on!
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http://8bitmayhem.untergrund.net
ehm yes, i thought my first post in the thread sort of implied that i understood that |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Well, pretending to be an enormous idiot is a unique definition of irony but yeah that demo shivered my balls too (it has tits and stuff). |
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Honesty
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 121 |
1st. Doom is right 64ér demos are lame ;)
2nd. The Iris demo looks like a wanna be copy of FR demos on pc.
Perhaps he should come down from his horse and should try to code with more limitations in the system.
It´s a pitty that such treats raises again (thought this period was over after 1993(?))
Last time i had this discussion was at an amiga party in Hamburg(supplex,complex sanity).
When i want to see such kind of demos i open my winamp visualisation.
Seriously this kind of flame war suxx and only shows the less knowledge of some wanna bees.
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Britelite
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 51 |
To be honest, quite a lot of c64-demos look like wannabe PC/Amiga-demos from the 90's, only with fucked up blocky resolution and horrible framerate. I should know ;) |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Shit.. posted an empty reply, and I cannot delete.. sorry! |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
you should have kept it empty, and pretend you wanted it that way :D
(ps, really stop those ahxs coming) |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Ought to be empty it ought to, yes..
Indeed, stop that AHX'ing right away, I must.
AHX leads to SFX, SFX leads SPF, SPF leads to somthing something... and something something leads to the dark side. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
...or just submit a random image, it is considered as a joker-post if you mess up something. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
Quote:I should know ;)
yes, read up on cache optimization! |
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Honesty
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 121 |
I know i even can´t code (to give u an apology for the next question ;) ),
but what cache did he mean? Did i mis anything the last 17 years??
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Cache you say? I guess he means the directory where a browser puts the components of his visited websites. Like Pouet logos, random images, pr0n, you name it.
So of course, C64 scene knows much less about cache optimization as we don't have many browsers on our computer.
(I'm not an idiot, just terrible at irony) |
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Bizzmo
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Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 82 |
And I was going to say that I thought cache optimisation has something to do with maximising revenue, but then I thought that might be a bit too predictable and rather weak humour so I decided not to. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
one more stupid post and I'll
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quote: And I was going to say that I thought cache optimisation has something to do with maximising revenue, but then I thought that might be a bit too predictable and rather weak humour so I decided not to.
Oh, Doom^IRIS could learn a lot from you...
Hey wait, you tricked that cache-joke into the post after all! You can't fool me, Bizzmo. |
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Intensity
Account closed
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 337 |
what is AHX anyway? |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
This is what WIKI says:
"This format is a synth-tracker. That is, there are no samples in the module file, rather descriptions of how to synthesize the required sound. This results in very small audio files (AHX modules are typically 1k - 4k in size), and a very characteristic sound. AHX is designed to sound as much like a Commodore 64 as possible."
So essentially this Doom fellow means SID, but can probably not spell it. |
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468 |
"AHX is designed to sound as much like a Commodore 64 as possible"
Doom fellow is saying we suck because we're making C64 music that is too much like C64 music. I'm not sure if he wants it better or worse. |
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Honesty
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 121 |
"The blind is telling from colours" i would call it.
He is a troll, don´t know much about C64 coding.
Hey, but next time we tell him how to code his amiga and how to optimize the blitter.
But in the end it is lame. Best is not react on people which don´t know what they wrote.
By reaction on it he gets the attention he wants and guys like him aren´t worth it in my opinion.
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
Quote: "The blind is telling from colours" i would call it.
He is a troll, don´t know much about C64 coding.
Hey, but next time we tell him how to code his amiga and how to optimize the blitter.
But in the end it is lame. Best is not react on people which don´t know what they wrote.
By reaction on it he gets the attention he wants and guys like him aren´t worth it in my opinion.
the attention he wants? i dont think the intention with his posts was that oswald was going to seek comfort on a totally different forum inhibited with other people who were also too stupid to get the jokes |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Noone should joke with c64 in negative context! Period.
We're dirty serious about our vanilla love machine. |
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Honesty
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 121 |
I don´t get what was so funny in his post ?
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Yeah Hollowman, that's no funny at all. You and your Amiga friends should learn some manners! Noone digs those rude jokes around here. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
\o/ This thread is dumb. \o/ |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
Quote: I don´t get what was so funny in his post ?
Humour isnt funny when explained, but in an attempt to kill this thread once and for all:
1. "It's like they all use the same palette, and only like 16 cols or summin. Like a little bit of originality would kill you"
On some other machines you can choose from a big amount of possible colors and have in your palette. On the c64 there are only 16 colors in total, pretty hard to find some other colors,no?
2."I also think if the C64 coders knew more about cache optimization, that'd help a lot."
i think it was yago who had some other ideas, but afaik the c64 doesnt have a cache to optimize for
3."And I hate how AHX is so popular on the C64. I mean, it's a nice sound and all, but really, it's been done too much already"
As stated already:"AHX is designed to sound as much like a Commodore 64 as possible."
That the c64 often sounds like a c64 is pretty much the same problem as the c64 colors often looking the same
It could be argued if these statements are funny or not, but atleast to me it was pretty obvious that they werent meant to be taken seriously, but judging by this thread a lot of people think otherwise
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Honesty
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 121 |
"Hahaha, what a killer...."
Same kind of humor like scientist had making jokes about their viruses looking em grow.
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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
8B |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
Now you've done it, Hollowman! The zombie is w0ked. :-E |
