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deizi Account closed
Registered: May 2003 Posts: 95 |
Longest or Biggest DEMO?
i was just wondering... what is the Longest or Biggest DEMO made on C64 so far? |
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Dwangi
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 130 |
dunno which one is THE longest/biggest but digital messiah-megastyle and cucumber juice 2/hitmen both was around 25minutes long (slow loaders in them afaik though :/). |
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Ninja
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 411 |
CountZero told me once, that during his time in "Talent" they made a demo which lasts an hour or so. Dunno the name, though... |
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MacGyver Account closed
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 149 |
@ Ninja, well, it seems you didn't look here on CSDb for that demo? :-) It's simply called "Demo Talent". |
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 588 |
And a link please? I need an hour enjoyment like this :)
Thanks in advance! |
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Ninja
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 411 |
mac: i had a look, but there was no way to tell for sure that this one was the demo i had in mind...
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MacGyver Account closed
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 149 |
@ Nafcom: Link added ;-)
@ Ninja: Ah, I see. Well, it was that demo :-)) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 11360 |
cucumber juice 2 is 27mins (if anyone cares :=P) :O) ... its not only because of the (admittedly slow) loader though... there were simply too much parts :o) |
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QuasaR
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 145 |
Btw, is there a third part of Cucumber Juice planned? |
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deizi Account closed
Registered: May 2003 Posts: 95 |
hm? what do you think about Midnite Movie By Zombie Boys? wasn't it kinda long? http://www.c64.ch/demos/realdetail.php?id=1046 there's a link... |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 3051 |
Krestology is long. "The Place in space" by Taboo is also very long, but it's quite worth watching all those old routines and listening to those musics. |
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Earthshaker
Registered: Sep 2002 Posts: 118 |
A lot of old demos from before 1990 are certainly very long. Just as long as you don't press the space bar. ;-)
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deizi Account closed
Registered: May 2003 Posts: 95 |
Quote: CountZero told me once, that during his time in "Talent" they made a demo which lasts an hour or so. Dunno the name, though...
it wasn't so long... (demo talent) liked the "boulder dash" part though... |
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Optimus
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 122 |
Do endless scrollers count? |
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 588 |
Quote: Do endless scrollers count?
Ah, that would be too easy ;)
So, guess not!
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deizi Account closed
Registered: May 2003 Posts: 95 |
Quote: Do endless scrollers count?
no!!! *my opinion* what about ComaLight 3? |
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Optimus
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 122 |
Yeah, but it's still easy to cheat that even without scrollers. Just put long running effects, 100 vector objects or slowly calculated fractals :P |
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 468 |
Or an easy cheat would be something like:
10 poke1024,255*rnd(1):goto10
I guess it would work, not checked it and been sooo long since I used rnd. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 1879 |
Quote: Or an easy cheat would be something like:
10 poke1024,255*rnd(1):goto10
I guess it would work, not checked it and been sooo long since I used rnd.
My "dark tales/focus" demo used the random function to generate what I called "vector mosaic", I once calculated it would take over 2 years to see all of the possible permutations. Funny thing is, the scrolltext takes almost as long to read :) |
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 588 |
Well, Opium/Samar used to be quite long and very good?
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=3586
All the best!
Bye!
Joerg |
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Ninja
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 411 |
"4th Dimesnion" by Voice comes also to my mind.
4th Dimension
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Matt
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 598 |
Quote: "4th Dimesnion" by Voice comes also to my mind.
4th Dimension
wow, I forgot all about that demo.
pretty neat one 8) |
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Wile Coyote Account closed
Registered: Mar 2004 Posts: 646 |
GFX-COL.1 [LOGOS] Aks: The Good, The Bad and the Ugly
...it goes on and on and on [and it`s on a single disk side]
*Email me if you want a copy
/WEC
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 1048 |
Cycle/Booze - it runs forever.
Btw, wonder if there has ever been made a demo that fills more than 2 disksides. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 2381 |
From what I remember all of the Faces-demos seemed to last a lifetime or two... ;) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 1879 |
Quote: Cycle/Booze - it runs forever.
Btw, wonder if there has ever been made a demo that fills more than 2 disksides.
Back in '94 we started working on a demo that would be 4 disksides, consisting of 4 smaller 1 sided demos made by different teams. There were enough of us to pull it off, but apart from lots of previews, nothing came out of it.
I still have most of the parts, maybe I should release it as "Antique Part(s) 2" or something :)
No Sander, that was a joke .. put down that axe .. |
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Wile Coyote Account closed
Registered: Mar 2004 Posts: 646 |
Quote: Back in '94 we started working on a demo that would be 4 disksides, consisting of 4 smaller 1 sided demos made by different teams. There were enough of us to pull it off, but apart from lots of previews, nothing came out of it.
I still have most of the parts, maybe I should release it as "Antique Part(s) 2" or something :)
No Sander, that was a joke .. put down that axe ..
heh, that would have involved 2 TURN DISK parts and, the worlds first CHANGE DISK part ;) /WEC :) |
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T.M.R Account closed
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 749 |
Y2K (Duck and Cover) was two full sides and a boot file on the third...? |
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Acidchild
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 474 |
atleast the 2 smash designs-demos 'fight against racism' and 'west light' are using 3 disksides...and i think watching krestology/crest without the third site is not possible.
syndrom/tia/crest once even told me that crest was planning a demo containing 12 disksides (1 for each constellation), but i think that was just a rumour :)
wolfram |
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titan_ae Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002 Posts: 46 |
don`t forget on "Road to Excess" from Triangle 3532.
Nice 2 sider,loading some hours between the parts,using that slow G.I.Joe Loader :)
ftp://utopia.hacktic.nl/pub/c64/Demos/pal/Triangle_3532/Road_Of.. |
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Black Belt Jones Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 57 |
how about Cucumber Juice 2 by Hitmen, i think it went for like 25 minutes!?!
EDIT: just noticed the "20 posts hidden" link, lets just forget i posted anything :-) |
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anonym
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 267 |
Embryo by Padua runs about 30 minutes, doesn't it? |
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Wile Coyote Account closed
Registered: Mar 2004 Posts: 646 |
Quote: Do endless scrollers count?
All scrollers have to end at some point (or loop). You could say Red Storm is long if you were to read the long long scoller at the the Red End.
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Wile Coyote Account closed
Registered: Mar 2004 Posts: 646 |
Quote: hm? what do you think about Midnite Movie By Zombie Boys? wasn't it kinda long? http://www.c64.ch/demos/realdetail.php?id=1046 there's a link...
I just checked Midnite Movie out, never seen that demo before. The demo is not all that long, although there are some interesting parts in there. Another demo with full screen static :) |
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Wile Coyote Account closed
Registered: Mar 2004 Posts: 646 |
Quote: @ Ninja, well, it seems you didn't look here on CSDb for that demo? :-) It's simply called "Demo Talent".
I couldn't see a date in there, although judging by the music -Demo Talent- must be quite old. The demo is ok, i don't quite understand the reason for using the same part twice on both disk side 1 & disk side 2 though?. The Ryu picture by Electric, it's an ok image, although for an Electric picture it's one of his worst, i guess it must have been among his first efforts. I liked the whole Pulp Fiction thing though, and the Turn Disk pt. i though was really entertaining :) |
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Zip Account closed
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 2 |
"The Big ZCF-Demo" from 1987 (I think) have a lot of parts and uf you read all the scrollers it should last at least 30 minutes.....
BTW: It was the first demo ever to completely fill every last block of a floppy :o) |
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null Account closed
Registered: Jun 2006 Posts: 645 |
+H2K is also pretty long.
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Knoeki/DigitalSoundsSystem/SwappersWithAttitude |
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Stan Account closed
Registered: Apr 2004 Posts: 187 |
Quote: Btw, is there a third part of Cucumber Juice planned?
Nope |
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Stan Account closed
Registered: Apr 2004 Posts: 187 |
Quote: CountZero told me once, that during his time in "Talent" they made a demo which lasts an hour or so. Dunno the name, though...
uhum... |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002 Posts: 1799 |
I can't remember the name, but I know there is a demo with a scrolltext that fill almost the entire memory. The text is crunched to 7 bits per letter, which makes it a VERY long text.
If you consider a text wrap as the end of a part, this might be one of the longest demos... ;-) |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003 Posts: 1647 |
7 bits... ? 128 different chars? Still quite a lot. Sure it isn't 4-5 bits or something? |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002 Posts: 1799 |
@ Frantic: Ah, mere details, perhaps it was 6. Dunno, doesn't matter... it was a HUGE scroll :-) |
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Prowler64 Account closed
Registered: Mar 2005 Posts: 7 |
Mace: Hmmm, "McDonald's Restaurant" by Crest has a world record scrolltext part. Takes quite a while to read it...
I also recall some of the Wonderland demos (9?) by Censor has a few pretty long parts? for example that Dankomusicspaceeyeballscroller with rotating stick-part... |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002 Posts: 1799 |
Are there any "1581" demos, with a 3.5" floppy filled to the brim?
I can't recall any 5.25" demos being longer than 2 disc sides, so anything filling a 3.5" disc beats them all. |
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null Account closed
Registered: Jun 2006 Posts: 645 |
Quote: Are there any "1581" demos, with a 3.5" floppy filled to the brim?
I can't recall any 5.25" demos being longer than 2 disc sides, so anything filling a 3.5" disc beats them all.
I believe there are one or two 4 sided (5.25") demos... dunno which though. Also, Desert Dream is 3 disksides big.
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Knoeki/DigitalSoundsSystem/GheyMaidInc/SwappersWithAttitude
http://hardwarehacks.untergrund.net/misc/zomgwtfbbq/ |
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kurant Account closed
Registered: Apr 2005 Posts: 15 |
afair Airdance IV and/or Airdance III are pretty long. |
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algorithm
Registered: May 2002 Posts: 705 |
My 'Binary Digits' megademo (Fantasys/Binary Zone PD) which from memory i believe had around 40 parts tape multiload.
Only Kenz has the parts now i believe. Please Kenz, give me the parts |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004 Posts: 677 |
yes,
PLEASE make any multipart tape demo available somehow!
waiting,
enthusi |
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Graham Account closed
Registered: Dec 2002 Posts: 990 |
A few more 3 diskside demos:
Fight Against Racism/Smash
West Light/Smash
Embryo/Padua
Y2K (Duck & Cover)/No Name |
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algorithm
Registered: May 2002 Posts: 705 |
Well. I actually have all my demo's still on tape, but they were saved in 'superturbo' format (Action replay) and i have had problems in transferring the data. Maybe tapes are warped etc.
The only person who has all this transferred and converted to disk as far as i know (including five of my other tape multiloader (eg Fantastic 1,2,3,4 & 5)) is Kenz / Binary Zone PD
Nice nostalgic stuff there all coded via AR monitor + multichannel digistuff etc etc |
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trident
Registered: May 2002 Posts: 91 |
It would be cool to make a demo that loads from the Internet using a TFE or RR-Net. No limit on its length... :) |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 1048 |
The countdown for the bonus part in Krestage 3 takes about a month. Guess that might count for something. |