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2015-09-02 21:03
Trap

Registered: Jul 2010
Posts: 223
Turning off character ROM

So, it's me again :)

I vaguely remember there's something about the VIC only being able to see the characterset ROM at $9000. For example if I bank switch to $8000-$BFFF and turn on bitmap at $8000, then I see the characterset even though I turned everything off ($01=#$35). Now, my question is - can I somehow turn that off or do I need to put my bitmap somewhere else? (would it be sufficient to move it to the other half of the bank ($A000-$BFFF)?


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Trap
2015-09-02 21:05
Tao

Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 115
There is no way to disable the character ROM, sorry. You can move it to the other half of the bank, or to another bank.
2015-09-03 05:07
Flavioweb

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 463
Setting $01 affects only CPU. Vic see anyway ram with charset rom fixed at $1000 and $8000.
2015-09-03 06:04
lft

Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 369
To clarify Tao's response: It is your bitmap that can be moved to the other half. Character ROM stays in place always.
2015-09-03 11:12
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
and to add some smartassing too: there is a way to disable it of course - switch to ultimax mode :)
2015-09-03 12:10
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014
Quote: and to add some smartassing too: there is a way to disable it of course - switch to ultimax mode :)

Which is only possible using a cart. </smartass>
2015-09-03 12:22
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
technically, all you need is a wire =D
2015-09-03 13:00
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014
MacGuyver only needs a paperclip (pun not intended).
2015-09-03 13:12
Flavioweb

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 463
I ask for a jpg of Gpz putting a swiss-knife in the expansion port...
2015-09-03 13:59
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
I've been routinely using a fork, before knowing you could reset with a card or a button...
2015-09-03 15:12
Tao

Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 115
Quote: technically, all you need is a wire =D

Or you could do what one of my younger brothers did to my 64 -- connect the ground cable from the C2N to the expansion port, thus blowing the fuse and messing up one of the VIA-chips (that 64 -- now retired -- randomly inserted joystick #2 up events, thus making it rather difficult to play some games -- Tetris being extremely annoying, for instance, where up = pause).
2015-09-03 15:35
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 520
Quote: Or you could do what one of my younger brothers did to my 64 -- connect the ground cable from the C2N to the expansion port, thus blowing the fuse and messing up one of the VIA-chips (that 64 -- now retired -- randomly inserted joystick #2 up events, thus making it rather difficult to play some games -- Tetris being extremely annoying, for instance, where up = pause).

youtube or it didn't happen! :)
2015-09-03 17:46
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648
All you need is a nerd like Gpz or Jackasser.
2015-09-03 21:12
Trap

Registered: Jul 2010
Posts: 223
Thanks guys. Appreciate your help.

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Trap
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