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2021-09-15 18:57
Starfox

Registered: Jul 2014
Posts: 42
The "writer" type programs

I recalled the writer type programs today at work. You know the ones where you write on the screen, then the program can play it back.

I remember writing one of those back in the day, but didn't really remember much about it other than it used kernal routines, and then you just stored all the keypresses in a buffer, and just played it back.

I was looking at kernal routines etc. for hours, and finally came up with a shitty program 🤣 (you can't save, lol).

I didn't remember that the cursor caused so many headaches back then, but I kind of got it to work, but it is ugly in writing mode.

Haha, I'm wondering how much I coded it the wrong way, or how it can be optimized/done smarter, especially the cursor stuff.

Have a look, if you're interested in this spaghetti code 🤣🤣🤣: https://pastebin.com/xz7SmVSQ

Cheers!
Peter / Starfox
2021-09-15 19:29
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932
A Real Writer nothing beats that - sorry :)
2021-09-15 19:57
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Quote: A Real Writer nothing beats that - sorry :)

Nah, Profi-Writer rox!
2021-09-15 20:19
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732
Quote: A Real Writer nothing beats that - sorry :)

Yes! That's the one! Golden memories!
2021-09-15 22:05
Starfox

Registered: Jul 2014
Posts: 42
I'll have to take a look at those then 👍

Who made the first one?
2021-09-15 22:14
Starfox

Registered: Jul 2014
Posts: 42
Quote: Yes! That's the one! Golden memories!

Hmm interesting. The Gamebusters 1541.

I was briefly a member of this group :) Really nice guys, Zeus and Bingo. I mostly communicated with Bingo.

Then Liteace wanted me to come join him in a new group that was forming, called The System, but I could't bring myself to call Bingo and tell him, so Liteace did it.

I've always felt bad about that, and I was only in The system briefly. I don't even remember what happened to this group, but I recall Kaze not liking how my sprites rotated. They were in the wrong order, in his opinion (probably being behind eachother, instead of in front of each other, in the direction they were rotating.)

Funny how memories come back, just like that :)

But cool to see they made this writer :)
2021-09-15 23:12
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932
Quoting Starfox
Hmm interesting. The Gamebusters 1541.

I was briefly a member of this group :) Really nice guys, Zeus and Bingo. I mostly communicated with Bingo.


Funny how memories come back, just like that :)

But cool to see they made this writer :)


Well, just two clicks - your Handle, Gamebusters and then A Real Writer + docs [polish] :)

Umpf :)

Nah really - A Real Writer was on my disks before Profi-Writer so it ofc is my favourite :)
2021-09-16 09:45
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 849
Writer all the way baby!
2021-09-16 10:12
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2244
memoriiies
really wrote sth to classmates on disk on
Shadow Writer [german]
2021-09-16 12:09
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648
I like this one:
3D Message Maker
2021-09-16 14:14
Motion
Account closed

Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 69
I always thought this one was cool. 'The Bullshit Letter Construction Set'.

B.S.L.C.S. V2.3

...and also Legend Writer V1.
2021-09-16 14:43
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648
Even though it is not 100% on topic, in this context I'd also like to mention:
Poison's Notemaker Stuff
2021-09-16 16:23
Starfox

Registered: Jul 2014
Posts: 42
Wow, a lot of suggestions :) This tools sure was popular to have your own version of.
2021-09-16 16:44
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
I think Super Writer was the first one I saw.

Futurewriter & Futurewriter II + were also quite commonly used.
2021-09-16 17:35
Ziaxx

Registered: Oct 2020
Posts: 18
My favorite writer from back then is The Final Writer
2021-09-17 13:35
Flex

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 111
two more for the list:

Ninja-Writer and DPS Writer V1.0
2021-09-17 13:54
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3193
Super-Writer
If you didn't use this, you weren't really l33t
(lmao)
2021-09-17 16:17
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
Lettermaker V all the way
2021-09-17 16:48
Stone

Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 172
Quoting Motion
I always thought this one was cool. 'The Bullshit Letter Construction Set'.

B.S.L.C.S. V2.3

Thanks! This one got updated in 2017 (!) B.S.L.C.S. V2.4
2021-09-17 19:33
Adam

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323
Quoting Zyron
Futurewriter & Futurewriter II + were also quite commonly used.


they are my favourite noters. great programs.
2021-09-17 20:18
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 849
I second Zyron & Adam on the FutureWriter tools ... they were another great favourite of mine.

Dark Warrior was also another writer I liked.
2021-09-17 21:53
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2589
Lots of feedback, but still nobody bothered looking at Starfox' own experiment, it seems. :)
2021-09-18 00:18
Starfox

Registered: Jul 2014
Posts: 42
Quote: Lots of feedback, but still nobody bothered looking at Starfox' own experiment, it seems. :)

Hahaha, don't worry. It was very bad :) Made from what I could remember, or not remember :) Just an experiment, as you said :)
2021-09-18 12:12
Ziaxx

Registered: Oct 2020
Posts: 18
Another one worth checking out.

PM-Writer V1.0
2021-09-19 10:16
Martin Piper

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722
I remember writing a proportional font note display whilst on a long flight, many years ago. Wonder where it went.
2021-09-19 18:49
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2589
@Martin: Scan the hard drives and dig it out - nice entry for the Grave Digger Compo at next Nordlicht. :-)
2021-09-19 20:52
Scrap

Registered: Jan 2021
Posts: 20
Well, undoubtable, this one was the best... ;-)
Scrap Writer III
2021-09-19 21:46
Ziaxx

Registered: Oct 2020
Posts: 18
This one was used in many demos and was probably the first one I tried myself. Such fond memories.

A Real Writer
2021-09-19 22:04
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 465
no one mentioned Magic Writer V1.1 yet? used it to make 'demos' when i was just a boy o_O
2021-09-20 10:42
Martin Piper

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722
@bugjam found it: https://github.com/martinpiper/C64Public/blob/master/HelpViewer..

From way back in 2013 :D
2021-09-20 22:57
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2589
Nice! How about adding it here as well? Or shall I?

EDIT: You don't have an editor for it, do you?
2021-09-21 04:49
aeeben

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 44
CSDb Writer Competition, anyone? ;)
2021-09-21 16:23
Flex

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 111
Nice idea from Aleksi!

@Scrap , ScrapMess V5 was probably the most used one. At least I used it a lot! What a cool tool (like all the earlier versions too).
2021-09-22 18:55
Starfox

Registered: Jul 2014
Posts: 42
Quote: CSDb Writer Competition, anyone? ;)

Great idea, lol :)
2021-09-22 23:09
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932
Sooooo - lets make a compo about this? :)

(Scrap obviously would be pre-disqualified! hehe)

TBH: I liked the modular loadable effect on one of the scrapwriters (cant remember versions) back then. Was mediate fun to do some own creations. :)
2021-09-23 10:38
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 849
If there is a compo (+1 from me), how about make it clear: it is not a NOTER compo. ;)
2021-09-23 11:57
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057
I did my own little "writer" routine for Good Vibrations diskmag. While music played, the reviewers Me and Wotnau wrote their review about the music, and it was then presented in the magazine along the tunes Good Vibrations #1
2021-09-23 17:55
Scrap

Registered: Jan 2021
Posts: 20
Quote: Sooooo - lets make a compo about this? :)

(Scrap obviously would be pre-disqualified! hehe)

TBH: I liked the modular loadable effect on one of the scrapwriters (cant remember versions) back then. Was mediate fun to do some own creations. :)


BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! ;-)
2021-09-27 17:14
NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231
As far as my memories go I used Infra Typer a couple of times to create such writer messages back in the days.
2021-09-27 22:25
Trap

Registered: Jul 2010
Posts: 223
We all know that T.H.A./Bonzai made the best writer :)
2021-09-29 09:33
Flex

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 111
Trap must be talking about Advanced Bonzai Note Maker V1.2
Never got to use it myself but looks decent.
2021-09-29 13:51
Stone

Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 172
Notewriters that don't support Galway tunes?! I mean, what is even the point of that! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2021-09-29 14:10
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Agreed, it should be able to play the Arkanoid title tune.
2021-09-29 14:32
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Quote: Agreed, it should be able to play the Arkanoid title tune.

Maybe it should play _only_ the arkanoid title tune? Arkanoid writer.

All good writers should have only one tune, one font and a spritescroller in the lower border. ;)
2021-09-29 14:56
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Yes, Arkanoid writer! \o/
2021-10-24 04:48
ZIG

Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 37
FSTNTR
Has source code on the disk... its written in Turbo Assember.
2021-10-24 17:22
DKT

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 99
I was using this one mostly (it contains many good features):
Octanoter V492.47
Cheers :)
2021-10-24 17:57
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621
Quote: CSDb Writer Competition, anyone? ;)

Let's have it :)
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