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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323 |
SAM speech and SID music together?
As I was fooling around with SAM speech the other day, my friend and I had an idea to try and use the SAM speech engine together with a SID tune. Im wondering if this is possible or even worth doing, as SAM takes up a lot of CPU time. Has it been done before?? It's just an idea which im interested in pursuing further - for sure! ;)
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
You can use the SAM sound.. but the whole speech player has to be written to work on nmi/irq, or else you cant use it. |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
But SAM sounds like shit, if you want to do anything semi-serious music-wise with it. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
Quote:but the whole speech player has to be written to work on nmi/irq, or else you cant use it.
almost :) i have hacked it to render the sample data into memory, so you can play it using nmi (or whatever). check http://hitmen.c02.at/html/tools_sam.html |
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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323 |
Quote: But SAM sounds like shit, if you want to do anything semi-serious music-wise with it.
LOL! True, It's not the best sound quality that's for sure! :) But it'll do for now.. |
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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323 |
Quote: Quote:but the whole speech player has to be written to work on nmi/irq, or else you cant use it.
almost :) i have hacked it to render the sample data into memory, so you can play it using nmi (or whatever). check http://hitmen.c02.at/html/tools_sam.html
Hey Groepaz.. Thanks a lot mate for the link! :)
Your hacked version is very interesting.. (also, nice site too!). Cheers! :)
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
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well, no speech synth sounds better than SAM on a c64. the radwar formanth synth sounds total crap, and berkeley speech system is not real, its based on samples.. |
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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323 |
ESS is a bit of a mystery. Ive read as much as I can about the berkeley group but can't find anything more out about their code, methods or anything. Thou, Texas Instruments made the best speech synth chip for the times - kicking everyone's ass! |
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Angel of Death
Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 211 |
Quote: well, no speech synth sounds better than SAM on a c64. the radwar formanth synth sounds total crap, and berkeley speech system is not real, its based on samples..
Hmmmm...
Sam is indeed very cleverly made. And extremely short. But do realise that most present-day "brute-force" speech synthesis is based on sampled phonemes and snippets. Since the nineties most sound synthesizers (not virtual analog ofcourse) work that way. Sampled waveforms are recalculated into a sort of vector table and then basic waveforms are modulated with it to create the eventual sound. The Malström synth in Propellerheads' Reason suite works basically the same.
So, I beg to differ Jan that ESS cheats but you are right by saying that SAM is real speech SYNTHESIS.
But quality-wise ESS can do great things. Why doesn't someone hack this one?
Cave of the Word Wizard
There is a lot in there. Should be enough to keep you amazing techno-boffins busy for a while...
ps.
We do have a "work in progress" of a rap song featuring SAM. It's been in the cold room for quite a while now so I guess it's time to finish the bugger. :)) |
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Stone
Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 172 |
Regarding ESS: According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESS_Technology the compression algorithm is patented by Forrest S. Mozer, one of the guys who founded ESST. Has anybody looked at the patents or tried contacting the guy? |
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Hate Bush
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 465 |
> We do have a "work in progress" of a rap song featuring
> SAM. It's been in the cold room for quite a while now so
> I guess it's time to finish the bugger. :))
SAM features on first record by my band, saying its name on the opening track. and this is probably a highlight of that track :) the quality of SAM speech will never cease to amaze me. |
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 639 |
Heh, Randall, same here. Wasn't my first record tho :) |
