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Majikeyric
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 83 |
65816 C compiler ?
I was just wondering if an efficient 65816 C compiler was available somewhere. The only one I found is not freeware and comes from Western Design Center. The ProSDK suite (including C Compiler w/ Optimizer, Assembler, Linker, Debugger, Libraries) from WDC is sold $395 (http://www.westerndesigncenter.com/wdc/tools.cfm). Maybe a cracked version somewhere ? ;-D
Did someone ever use it ?
Do you know an alternative ? (running under WinXP)
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
the wings patches are on sourceforge...
however, its quite bad =P |
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Devia
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401 |
Uhm.. http://www.cc65.org - supports 65SC816, iirc.
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Interesting stuff... pity I know shit about those machines :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
devia: no, the assembler does, but the c-compiler doesnt |
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Devia
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401 |
Quote: devia: no, the assembler does, but the c-compiler doesnt
ahh.. i c.. or rather i don't ;-)
..upon closer inspection it appears the 65816 support is only listed as an asm option.. my bad.
I guess nobody feels like updating the C compiler :)
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Quote: I was just wondering if an efficient 65816 C compiler was available somewhere. The only one I found is not freeware and comes from Western Design Center. The ProSDK suite (including C Compiler w/ Optimizer, Assembler, Linker, Debugger, Libraries) from WDC is sold $395 (http://www.westerndesigncenter.com/wdc/tools.cfm). Maybe a cracked version somewhere ? ;-D
Did someone ever use it ?
Do you know an alternative ? (running under WinXP)
WTF has this to do with C64 ? |
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468 |
There are a few pieces of hardware for the C64 that use 65816 |
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Majikeyric
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 83 |
I thought that LCC was Wings programming oriented... I might give it a try (but if Groepaz says it isn't really worth...;-D). I have read a bit the documentation of some tools from the ProDSK suite of WDC. The C compiler and the other tools: assembler, simulator, optimizer... "seem" really powerful (http://www.westerndesigncenter.com/wdc/documentation/816cc.pdf). Erm, I was thinking about maybe purchasing the complete suite...
Why am I interested in a C compiler ? because I have never been more productive in coding than when I was coding years ago on PC, mixing C (for logic) and assembly (for gfx stuffs). Mixing C & asm on a "basic" C64 isn't really envisageable but on the SuperCPU platform I think it might give good results. Though I wonder if the execution environment built by a C compiler is not too heavy to achieve quality stuffs even at 20Mhz...
I have been working on a SuperCPU game engine for 4-5 years now and development goes too slowly. I have good ideas for it and if only the needed routines were in pure asm it would really speed up the things...
The Slang language (http://www.ffd2.com/fridge/slang/) by Steve Judd could be a good alternative to let's say : C, but it only produces 6502 code... |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1078 |
Slang does produce 65816 code, although it only uses a small part of its power. The main code will have to be in the lower 64k, but you can keep data structures in SuperRAM through the user of @-arrays:
ubyte level(64,64)@$040000
would declare a 64x64 array in bank 4.
Also, both Slang and cc65 let you mix high level code with 65816 assembler routines. It's easy enough to make a library of 65816 routines that are accessible from C.
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Frank Buss
Registered: May 2014
Posts: 2 |
Quote: I was just wondering if an efficient 65816 C compiler was available somewhere. The only one I found is not freeware and comes from Western Design Center. The ProSDK suite (including C Compiler w/ Optimizer, Assembler, Linker, Debugger, Libraries) from WDC is sold $395 (http://www.westerndesigncenter.com/wdc/tools.cfm). Maybe a cracked version somewhere ? ;-D
Did someone ever use it ?
Do you know an alternative ? (running under WinXP)
Looks like it is free now. I guess they wouldn't sell much of it anyway, because for many other CPUs a C compiler is free as well. |
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