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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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Event id #1491 : C64.sk Cover Compo #2
<Post edited by CreaMD on 3/1-2013 11:24>
The most delayed compo sequel ever - CoverCompo#2 is finally here!
When: 1.1.2013 - 22.1.2013 (3 weeks)
Rules:
0. As with previous C64.sk compos. Compo entires will be published on-fly (in order as they come)
1. send your compo entries as SID files **WITH ALL CREDITS** to creamd@c64.sk . This version wont' be released until the compo is over.
2. Compo is *ANONYMOUS*. During the submission phase, only the uncredited MP3 version of the tune will be released. The name of the tune will be published.
3. Don't upload your entries anywhere until the compo voting phase is over (voting will be organised standard way at c64.sk). The voting phase will be closed 2 weeks after the compo deadline (which is at January 22. 2013)
4. Your tune must be a *COVER* version (or remix) of already existing music. Please, when sending e-mail provide also additional info about the tune. Credits, your comments (why you loved the original, or whatever comes into your mind). Thanx!
5. One entry per musician.
Hint: Make cover of your favourite "maintream" music. Chipmusic or mod covers are accepted too, and can be interesting if made well, but this compo is aiming on things you can hear in radio, or buy in music stores.
Don't forget: send your stuff to creamd@c64.sk with all credits included.
Have fun!
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
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Quoting CreaMD
When: 1.12.2013 - 22.12.2013 (3 weeks)
heh, still running on champagne? |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
hrmpfz! fixed. naah.. I always have problems with year changes.. never get the dates right if the year is too fresh.. ;-) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
First cover arriwed!
"Cannon Fodder" check it here -> http://www.6581.org/cmc2/
Keep'em coming!
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
that was a mistake to link to that domain, now we all know who made it, and you wanted anonymous! :)
btw i was first, i sent as i saw the post, but you didnt get it, mmy shit keeps saying it cant deliver, so im sending from gmail now.
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Merman
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 140 |
Are we allowed more than one entry? |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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That address is hosting the tunes, so nope. You don't know the author. As for the rules are concerned. It would be nice if the authors themselves respected it by not jumping around discussion immediatelly after they send something etc. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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One entry per Musician. Do I really need to have that in rules? Arghrmpfz ;-) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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<Post edited by CreaMD on 7/1-2013 00:25>
3 entries submitted so far. |
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6R6
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 244 |
Hello..
On that download page, I think it would be a good idea to tell who made the original tune, year of original release, album name, publisher, and maybe even a link to a youtube clip. |
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6R6
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 244 |
Are you recording to mp3 from real sid chip or via emulator ?
(Real sid chip is preferred) |
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Cresh
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354 |
I am sure Xiny6581 does the recording from real hw.
And yes, more info on the originals would be nice so that ppl do not have to google that. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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More info is always nice. But it has usually to be done from incomplete data. So somebody has to do it. Maybe it would be nice to crowdsource it. Put the entries on CSDB (without D/L links if admins wouldn't mind) and let people to add trivia.
MP3 are recorded on real SID by Xiny6591. |
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Cresh
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354 |
<Post edited by moderator on 6/1-2013 18:29>
Just a quickie, I have to go now.
02/01-2013 Cannon Fodder YES 8580
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cbGTlgHqI (Recruitment Music)
03/01-2013 Billie Jean 8bit Style YES 6581
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi_XLOBDo_Y[/PETIns]
03/01-2013 Jojo The Monkey YES 8580
http://youtu.be/TrEezdtNiFU
05/01-2013 Tik Tok YES 6581
http://youtu.be/iP6XpLQM2Cs
05/01-2013 Seperated Ways YES 8580
http://youtu.be/LatorN4P9aA
05/01-2013 Holy Grail YES 8580
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJWHDdhq1CI
(edit: 1. 2. 6. links added by creamd)
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Sixx
Registered: May 2005
Posts: 229 |
Thanks Cresh! One of those covers already stand up as a potential winner this early in the compo. <3 |
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Cresh
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354 |
Thanks CreaMD for the updade.
And yes, I have my winner, too.
Funny, I do not really like this kind of music, but the cover itself is dope.
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Xiny6581
Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 72 |
Hello one and everyone :)
Thanks for all the awesome songs which has been submitted so far!
Okay let's clear out a few things.
I host the site and should be blame for the design ;)
The recordings are of course done on real C-64 equipped with 8580R5 and 6581R4AR chips.
The files are recorded straight from the C-64 to wave formats and then encoded to 192khz CBR mp3.
The files have and NEVER will be improved with any kind of dynamic effects, such as Noise gate, Compressor, Maximizer or even Normalizer. Nope what you hear is the DRY source directly from the C-64 Audio out. The only thing I've done is to ground the audio(ground) signal to prevent any 50hz hums from that ugly RF-Modulator. Oh, by the way on the 6581R4AR machine I have even removed the nasty RF-BOX.
As far as it comes to filenames and origins, that CAN be implemented, but I try to keep it short. To avoid conflicts with and copyrights (like to link a youtubeclip on my site). So as far as the wave is now That stuff can be discussed here okay.
I mean IF things are green and smelling good, perhaps a more informative page can be added, but we'll see about that. After all I don't have unlimited of time to jazz around like that(didn't find a correct trainer to give real life unlimited of hours :-)).
Anyhow let's get this pipe glowing!
Cheerz,
Xiny6581 aka (Cris) |
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 208 |
Quote: 3 entries submitted so far.
Sorry but it's 3 entries per musician? (I have to know for sure) :) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
I've updated the rules, so there it is. One entry ;-) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Tune #7 added - Ona Tanczy Dla Mnie
Original: Weekend - Ona tańczy dla mnie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvxG3zl_WhU The biggest 2012 year hits in Poland. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3145 |
Quote: Tune #7 added - Ona Tanczy Dla Mnie
Original: Weekend - Ona tańczy dla mnie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvxG3zl_WhU The biggest 2012 year hits in Poland.
oh I hear epic sax guy, can't be less than a hit. |
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 208 |
Quote: I've updated the rules, so there it is. One entry ;-)
Oh first it just said: "3 entries" without "submitted so far" that's why my question. OK! 1 entry it is! Why is that if I may ask? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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what an odd question really. isnt "one entry per person" pretty much a standard setup for pretty much any compo? |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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Because "one entry per person is pretty much a standard setup for pretty much any compo". I respect that standard in 99% of compos I organize.
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 208 |
OK! Sorry for asking! A bit overenthusiastic! |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Who isn't from time to time? |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 620 |
I'm out this time. :)
Too busy on other projects. |
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Mr.Ammo
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Posts: 228 |
Quoting Xiny6581
The files are recorded straight from the C-64 to wave formats and then encoded to 192khz CBR mp3.
The files have and NEVER will be improved with any kind of dynamic effects, such as Noise gate, Compressor, Maximizer or even Normalizer. Nope what you hear is the DRY source directly from the C-64 Audio out. The only thing I've done is to ground the audio(ground) signal to prevent any 50hz hums from that ugly RF-Modulator. Oh, by the way on the 6581R4AR machine I have even removed the nasty RF-BOX.
Wow, your modded C64's are really quiet. Dead quiet! Quieter than my HardSid! ;)
Btw, is there any reason to why some mp3s have 2 channels? And are you able to provide a mono lossless (e.g. the wave file itself) too? |
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 208 |
Quote: Who isn't from time to time?
Sure thing! |
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 208 |
Quote: what an odd question really. isnt "one entry per person" pretty much a standard setup for pretty much any compo?
Well just look at the Crack Intro compo! |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 508 |
Quoting Mr AmmoAnd are you able to provide a mono lossless (e.g. the wave file itself) too?
Yeah, FLAC would be nice.
I'll get a bit nerdish here ;)
Just "192kbps" isn't enough info by the way, VBR is already a standard, and it's even important what preset in the encoder you use (not to mention which encoder, which is even more important, many encoders cut off above 18,5kHz as standard, for example). I'd suggest LAME with --alt-preset extreme which results around ~256kbps. That should be enough. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 934 |
Quote: Well just look at the Crack Intro compo!
I prefer 1 entry per composer as well. This way a composer is forced to select the best of his possible entries for the competition. And deal with the emotional consequences. ;)
All in all, you can compete in both compos anyway. |
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Isildur
Registered: Sep 2006
Posts: 275 |
Quote: Quoting Mr AmmoAnd are you able to provide a mono lossless (e.g. the wave file itself) too?
Yeah, FLAC would be nice.
I'll get a bit nerdish here ;)
Just "192kbps" isn't enough info by the way, VBR is already a standard, and it's even important what preset in the encoder you use (not to mention which encoder, which is even more important, many encoders cut off above 18,5kHz as standard, for example). I'd suggest LAME with --alt-preset extreme which results around ~256kbps. That should be enough.
Wackee, talk to me like that :)
I'm a headphone-audiophile geek.
So 192 kbps is lame :) All the most important frequencies are just cut.
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Xiny6581
Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 72 |
--Mr Ammo Btw, is there any reason to why some mp3s have 2 channels? And are you able to provide a mono lossless (e.g. the wave file itself) too?
That is basically my fault to have some of the mp3s are dual channels, because of the software I use for recording. It's been acting weird and seems to have an own of its own to either not work or work mono/stereo :) But yeah that will be fixed soon when upgrading to a new version.
As far as it comes to lossless etc. I am bouncing the idea back and forth. The main reason to keep the files in 192khz is to keep the filesize down, due I don't have unlimited space on my webhotel. Then I of course want to torture the headphone-audiophile geeks ;)
But we'll see about this in the future. I have kind of noticed some SIDs don't erect as good as they should... so the future will tell ;)
--Wackee
Yes, you're right there hence why I consider to dump the mp3 encoding and upgrade to a more modern format such as FLAC.
Oh by the way is FLAC a free format or do I need a special "common creative" license for it? (I know it's opensource and all that shit and yeah freeware or whatever it's called;) don't lecture me with that basic crap! :-))
PS.I've done some experimental recordings with FLAC, as well and yeah sometimes FLAC can get smaller than an mp3.
CheerZ :D
--Cris |
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Mr.Ammo
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Quoting Xiny6581
Oh by the way is FLAC a free format or do I need a special "common creative" license for it? (I know it's opensource and all that shit and yeah freeware or whatever it's called;) don't lecture me with that basic crap! :-))
--Cris
http://xiph.org/flac/license.html |
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Xiny6581
Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 72 |
Thanks :)
Now I know all there is to it. |
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Isildur
Registered: Sep 2006
Posts: 275 |
In my opinion this track is the amazingly perfect cover:
http://youtu.be/LatorN4P9aA
Ke$ha is the second :) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Tune #9 added. "Rambo 3" -> http://www.c64.sk
Guess what is the original source of the cover? |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Just got entry #10... Forwarded it to Xiny for recording Prepare for multiple eargasms! ;-) |
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Xiny6581
Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 72 |
Just updated to #10 :)) |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Seems like the crack compo tune stole alll the buzz :-) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Tune #11 in processing. Forwarded to Xiny ;-) |
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Mr. SID
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424 |
Wow @ Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough! :)
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
There is never enough good covers for C64. ;) |
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Xiny6581
Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 72 |
#11 is up and running now guys ;)
C'mon let's make it :-) |
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Xiny6581
Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 72 |
#12 Has successfully been recorded and uploaded. Listen and enjoy :) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
it's at http://6581.org/cmc2/ will be added to c64.sk later... #13 tune arrived too. Thanx for support. Keep'em coming. Compo deadline is on tuesday 22.jan 23:59.
(unless there are some musician(s) that would like to participate and need more time (I might extend it to sunday 23:50) contact me by-email ) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
#14 arrived. forwarded to Xiny. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Deadline extended to Sunday 23:59. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
14 MSX
http://www.c64.sk/ or http://www.6581.org/cmc2/
deadline on Sunday 23:59 |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
Well I am actually working on a cover tune. We will see if I make it in time for the compo, but otherwise the intention was to release it outside the compo. :) |
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6R6
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 244 |
If Jeff is going to compete... then I will try to finish a compo entry as well.
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Jeff, you should probably watch this short video (I recently shared here with a newly registered user) too ;-)
http://vimeo.com/55495626 |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Pssst it's supposed to be anonymous ;-) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
That too... |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
Oh well. For me the competition part of it doesn't matter at all. It just happened that I felt motivated to do something. Rather than, as competitions suggest, doing things for the sake of it.
My tune will not be in the competition. ;-) |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
So have fun with your Eurovision SID contest! :-D |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1391 |
Argh, for some reason I only just got round to reading this thread (think I'd been assuming disk covers, not music covers). Might have been useful motivation. Ah well, another time. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Jeff, I don't make music competitions for sake of competitions, but because I love SID music. So whether it goes into compo or outside, I would be glad to hear some cool cover from you. That's for sure!
;-) |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
CreamD: Thanks. And do keep getting sid composers active like that. I hope to take part some day without revealing myself :D |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
don't worry nobody will recognize you anyway...
le trollface...
;-))) |
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Mr. SID
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424 |
Whoever made that Fireflies cover, I hope they enjoy this: http://www.twinbirds.com/Fireflies_with_vocals.mp3
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Would be interesing to supress that vocal chanel on C64 and put the human vocal in front. This or that phrasing fits quite well. |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
The quality of the tunes in this compo is low.. even my own too..
Its much harder to make a good cover, than to invent incredible stuff from self. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
CreaMD slaps SIDWave around a bit with a large trout.
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Mr. SID
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424 |
This is fun, I made another one: http://twinbirds.com/Somewhere_Only_We_Know_with_vocals.mp3 |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1391 |
The Ona Tanczy Dla Mnie and One Must Fall covers are pretty catchy, but for me Fireflies is head and shoulders above the rest of the field.
Absolutely nailed the opening instrument, I could listen to it all day. (Actually, that was pretty much my Thursday...) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Mr.Sid, the second one, a lot better.
#16 coming. The compo entry-sbumission phase ends tommorow (Sunday 23:55) |
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Mr. SID
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424 |
Please kill me! http://www.twinbirds.com/Tik_Tok_with_vocals.mp3 |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
<Post edited by CreaMD on 26/1-2013 13:40>
Mrsid, don't Stop 'til You Get Enough ;-)
(can't make links, so here is the hint http://6581.org/cmc2/media/Dont_Stop_til_You_Get_Enough.mp3)
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1060 |
Quote: Please kill me! http://www.twinbirds.com/Tik_Tok_with_vocals.mp3
Wonderful! |
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Mr. SID
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424 |
Quote: Mrsid, don't Stop 'til You Get Enough ;-)
(can't make links, so here is the hint http://6581.org/cmc2/media/Dont_Stop_til_You_Get_Enough.mp3)
That was the first one I tried, but I didn't find an a capella version that didn't also include the drum track. Syncing that up proved to be very hard. |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
I lol'd so hard on that tik tok vocal track awesome work. Pretty accurate cover work by the author of the sid. Also props to mr.sid for the blending! |
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Xiny6581
Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 72 |
#16 is up and running now :)
Cheerz mates and big shout outs to all who has contributed!
C'mon there is still time to make it for all of you who want..... ;)
/Xiny6581 |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
+2 entries coming
~8 hours to deadline
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Xiny6581
Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 72 |
#17 and #18 are up and ready :)
Yep soon closing in, so now is the time....
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
#19 coming.
roman |
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Xiny6581
Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 72 |
#19 is ready :) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
#20 coming |
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Rayne
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 30 |
Quote: #20 coming
But still not there... ;) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Depends on our recording wizard Xiny. ;-) I'll get to anything more in the evening. |
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Xiny6581
Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 72 |
#20 has been uploaded and ready. Just a bit delayed due real life took over :)
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 508 |
Roman, that's an interesting news headline from 30th Jan on c64.sk... ;) |
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Cresh
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354 |
underaga lolita models nude
Sweet! |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Nude lolita ? WTF who's been leaking pics ? Jeff ? :-D |
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The Syndrom
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 57 |
so when will voting finally start ? |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Clearly youre new to CreaMD's compos :-D |
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The Syndrom
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 57 |
not really but I thought this voting script was ready after so many delayed compos ;-) |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Hope for the best, but dont hold your breath :-D (no offence roman, just pulling your leg) |
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Mr. SID
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424 |
Wouldn't normally be a problem waiting for a CreamD compo, but this one hurts because it's still anonymous. Can we get the voting going? Roman!!??!? :) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3145 |
I don't give a fuck about the charts, give me the sids instead =) |
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Stinsen
Registered: Feb 2012
Posts: 74 |
Ian: I love your pragmatic approach. ;D |
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The Syndrom
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 57 |
this delay is ridiculous. If Roman still won't act or comment, Xiny should add the entries (anonymosly first) to csdb to get the voting going... |
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Mr. SID
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424 |
Can we move on? Let's vote here... |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Okay. How about I launching voting on monday. Deal?
Btw. it wasn't always like this, but since I've got all married with children and dead walking around the scene like third class zombie .. well.. crap.. I don't even feel like finding emotionally strong excuses.
Monday? With a big bang, of course.
...anyway, where was I... aha, looking for last years Forever party results txt. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1055 |
if you don't have time to organize a compo, maybe you shouldn't do em... |
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6R6
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 244 |
"Olsen Banden" that must have been made by some Norwegian fellow. And that Rambo song sounds very familiar, I think I know who. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
You are right burglar now when there are plenty of better organizers than me anyway. Time to die...
Anyway i wonder when exactly was the point in m lifee when I turned drama queen...
BUT it's your fault anyway... |
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Cargo
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 5 |
You are so rigorous. I sent a registration form to the Spankers Heaven 2 weeks ago, but I didn't get any answer yet. :) |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
no voting ? now its march.. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
didn't you basically say that all things submitted to the compo were crap anyway Sidwa? ;-)
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The Syndrom
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 57 |
Quote: Okay. How about I launching voting on monday. Deal?
Btw. it wasn't always like this, but since I've got all married with children and dead walking around the scene like third class zombie .. well.. crap.. I don't even feel like finding emotionally strong excuses.
Monday? With a big bang, of course.
...anyway, where was I... aha, looking for last years Forever party results txt.
Did I miss something ? it's tuesday already... |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Ok it seems all authors (except of five) are revealed now. Voting is now pointless. I apologise for the delay of Rambo Revisited and voting of Cover Compo #2. No more online c64 msx or c64 gfx compo organising from me. Thanx for all the support over the years it was a great trip and a lot of cool stuff has been done that I listen to from time to time.
roman
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 208 |
A shame you decided to stop organising compos. We all liked those and your participation in them. Maybe you can reconsider over a period of time? |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 455 |
EDIT: sorry, didn't want to piss off anybody, -nevermind... |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
i have been a driver in creating hvsc for 28 years, and i am still a driver, and i am still in hvsc, but as "consultant", im not gonna use more years to rip :)
anyhow, i often thought of hvsc having regular compos, so why wait, i can do that. we can have themes and wild, and styles, and any kinda compo we think will be fun.
compos make contributors try their best with something new, they are not themself, and do extraordinary things.
its the taking part in something that changes the whole situation. yeah!! im gonna do this.
i find out of something, and i let you all know. |
