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2024-12-17 05:04
DanPhillips

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 39
Release id #248337 : Parallaxian Preview +DG

I'm not sure Kodiak has stopped working on this, he mentioned working on it on the 3rd of December, nothing on X/Forums would suggest he's stopped working on it or the c64.
 
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2024-12-18 19:19
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1101
Quoting DanPhillips
but what do you do if it's spread and you know who it was, there's no recourse especially as no matter the context it's celebrated.
you shame them publicly for being untrustworthy :)
2024-12-18 19:50
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2244
Quoting chatGPZ
If you don't want your stuff being released by a cracking group - do not give it to them. It really is that simple. ...

This.
Crackers crack.
(for whatever this means nowadays, that's another often debated matter)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog#Synopsis

PS: Congratulations, mini drama is a nice PR stunt for the developer, anyway :)
2024-12-18 21:09
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980
"For the commenter on CSDB... I didn't know he was in a cracking group when I let him see the tech demo. This is ridiculous, I have to address CSDB nonsense here because of their closed shop policy."

Can yous let Kodiak in? =)
2024-12-18 23:58
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 337
We have serious case of victim blaming here. Why m'i not surprised...
2024-12-19 00:32
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1101
Quoting Jetboy
We have serious case of victim blaming here. Why m'i not surprised...
dont forget the serious case of virtue signalling :)
2024-12-19 17:12
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
Quote:
Can yous let Kodiak in? =)

Some people like to think that people who make games today are somehow not part of the scene. Silly indeed :)
2024-12-19 18:57
Brataccas

Registered: Jan 2015
Posts: 16
Feels like deja-vu - a whole drama war already blew up about Parallaxian on Lemon years ago. This is the famous game preview which 'invented' CIA timer-based NMI interrupts and invented 'toggle-plexing' and invented vertical parallax..

Doesn't make sense that someone can work with scene members and give previews to crackers and then pretend like they never heard of anything like this before. Totally valid to be mad that a trusted partner leaked their preview though. Just not the denigration of CSDB or releases in general.
2024-12-19 19:12
DanPhillips

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 39
Nobody is questioning the natural order of things, games get cracked/released etc. It's fun and part of the c64.

I don't think it really does cause harm to full products, especially with the year of grace, so no complaints here.

The thing that didn't sit well was the faux justification.

Either support creators and encourage or take the view that you'll screw them over for any reason you can stick it to the man etc.

Not reaching out and confirming that it is a dead project, how hard would it have been?

I would hope for some collaboration around making things for a platform that is very difficult to justify supporting.

After all less nice things being made = less things to show your skill/get fun out of cracking/packaging, surely that's not in any ones interest unless the goal is to kill the platform and spoil everyone's fun, even your own?
2024-12-19 21:18
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732
Move on. The full game will be "cracked" as well.
2024-12-19 21:25
DanPhillips

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 39
Quote: Move on. The full game will be "cracked" as well.

As is the way.


No discussion to be had then.
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