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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
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JCH NewPlayer 21.g5
Since I don't use np21.g5 myself I haven't caught a serious problem with the previous upload. It seems the packer didn't parse all the player code, therefore the filter data pointers ended up pointing at garbage data when using NP-Pack 5.4beta (and previous version as well). I've uploaded a new zip-archive with the player, packer and demos, where actually only the packer has been updated. So, for the few people that actually use JCH still and fancy using np21.g5, you'd better download the new archive or tunes using filtered instruments will come out wrong when you pack them. ;)
Release is here:
JCH NewPlayer 21.g5
Cheers! |
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_V_
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Thanks =]. I didn't notice the packer doing odd things so far, but still, it's better to have something which works the way it's intended to. |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
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Yes it is.
The bug only occurs with 21.g5, not the previous versions. Filter data NEVER work with 21.g5 and NP5.4 and older.. sadly! |
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Sidder
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Quote:Since I don't use np21.g5 myself I haven't caught a serious problem with the previous upload. It seems the packer didn't parse all the player code, therefore the filter data pointers ended up pointing at garbage data when using NP-Pack 5.4beta (and previous version as well). I've uploaded a new zip-archive with the player, packer and demos, where actually only the packer has been updated. So, for the few people that actually use JCH still and fancy using np21.g5, you'd better download the new archive or tunes using filtered instruments will come out wrong when you pack them. ;)
Thanks God, I've noticed this bug today.
And what to do if JCH + 21.G5 crashes?
I've converted old tune form 20.G4 to 21.G5 and, after 4 hours of work, editor crashed... :< Is there any SYS $XXXX or smth to get editor back? |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
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sidder, how did you manage to convert the tune? or did you rather type it in again from scratch, hex by hex? because, merging ain't exactly working - i wished that would have worked with the earlier speedplayers as well ..
also, for the record - i got down to 21.g4 again because a certain frequency-bug is gone. =) |
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Sidder
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Quote: sidder, how did you manage to convert the tune? or did you rather type it in again from scratch, hex by hex? because, merging ain't exactly working - i wished that would have worked with the earlier speedplayers as well ..
also, for the record - i got down to 21.g4 again because a certain frequency-bug is gone. =)
Conversion? I just used "JCH Swapper v1.0" - it _seems_ to work when converting form 20.G4 to 21.G5. |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
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what the funk .. did that tool escape my attention during the last years? gotta get it right now. |
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Sidder
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Quote: what the funk .. did that tool escape my attention during the last years? gotta get it right now.
There are other nice tools for JCH, e. g. SoundRipper, Graphic Player and even DigiEditor (anybody knows how to use this?) - do not miss them. ;)
JCH Swapper theoretically is able to convert every newplayer file to every other newplayer file, but I've noticed that after 20.G4 -> 21.G4/G5 conversion editor crashes. It doesn't hang out exacly after loading converted file, but sometimes after 20 minutes of working, or even a few hours. Maybe Laxity knows the reason? |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
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at some points, jch tends to crash for some reasons - even when the tune is being built from scratch. =) because of that i started to save my tunes a gazillion times, so that crashes hurt me less. from the top of my head, twoflower is also a reporter of randomly appearing jch crashes, i think he ran into them even more than i did. =) |
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Sidder
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Quote:at some points, jch tends to crash for some reasons
And there's no any magic SYS that take user back to editor after crash? |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
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sys $c803 (if I recall correctly) works most of the time in the usual version of JCH.. shouldn't be different just because another player i used I think (if this crash is due to the old problems, that is..). However.. no promises.. |
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Sidder
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Quote: sys $c803 (if I recall correctly) works most of the time in the usual version of JCH.. shouldn't be different just because another player i used I think (if this crash is due to the old problems, that is..). However.. no promises..
You are right, SYS $c803 works. |
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SuperNoise
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Quote: You are right, SYS $c803 works.
Strange... normally I use sys$c800 and it works rorrectly too. |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
I can't recall that the JCH editor ever crashed on me with non debug versions of NP21. Now, I wonder if you guys use the SHIFT+P thing a lot or something, cause I noticed that it did some strange stuff in mem on a few occations when trying to get it to work with NP21.
If the editor crashes, one can always save memory from $0f00 to $9fff, reboot and reload the editor and load it back in. That should work for sure, unless the editor trashed the music data.
As I stated in the first post of this thread, I'm not using JCH anymore as I've been working on my own editor since October last year, in the bits of time I can find here and there. It's been usable for about half a year, and is pretty much done now. Only thing missing really is the ability to hold, edit, pack and relocate multi-tunes. If anyone of you are interested in giving SID Factory a try, write me a pm. It's a lot like the JCH editor, and has inherited most of the stuff that I like about it (including looks.. ;)), but is WAY better :).
SID Factory includes a build in packer and there's even a relocator tool for it. Beyond that, I've written two drivers that are working pretty ok.. One will do multi speed up to x4. The file format might change a bit in the future though, so there's no quarantee that work tunes will load in future versions, but still.. Those can be finished in the current then, unless I write a swap tool too :)
EDIT: Testing and suggestions are very welcome too.. |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
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mail sent! :D |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
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Right back at ya! ;) |
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Sidder
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WOOOW, I've been playing with SID Factory only 30 minutes, but I've already started loving it. :) Maybe we should open new topic about SF tests? |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Then I'd better make an alpha release too.. I smell work comming! ;) |
