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celticdesign
Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 152 |
c64music editor for pc?
hi there,
is there any musiceditor you can work on a c64 emulator with 100% sid emulation? or is there any tracker with 100% sid-compatibility on pc available?
after my inactive period of around 13 years i really would like to start to work on some tunes again.
keep on rockin' it....... |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1163 |
To be honest, GT was never really targeted to be especially intuitive or easy, it's for people who know what they want and what they're doing - and also limitations of emulating. IMO (just to be a bit of an asshole) C64 doesn't need any more musicians who don't know what they're doing and/or just copy the default-instruments, of course everyone's got to start somewhere, but that doesn't necessarily mean those first-attempts have to be released :) |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 964 |
I think goattracker has always been intuitive, took me a day to get used to it, after using protracker/ft2 for years. (then again, I also fiddled with sid (Electrosound was an advanced tool then) when I was young, so maybe that helped me with the basics when I started using Goattracker)
I don't understand why someone would use sid to practice churchmusic or something alike. If you want something with sheetmusic possibilities, sid is not the way to go. Sid is like a minisynthesizer and not a keyboard with recording possibilities. There are a lot of midiprogramms that can do that, connect it to a keyboard and of you go. Some free midiprogramms are easy to use. |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1163 |
I guess the point was to find as similar program as the "SID Editor" as possible. Though why then to expect a SID program on PC to break spec by magically possessing a 4th voice? :) |
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annw
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Registered: Feb 2006
Posts: 4 |
Thanks for help everyone.
If I could play keyboard, I wouldn't be in this fix.
I can find lots of stuff to record music if you know how to play piano.
I need something to help me stay on pitch singing, get rythms correct, and help train my ear to stay on my part when hearing the other voices.
I remember the limit of 3 voices in the old SID chip. Most music I deal with is for SATB. I found it puzzling that in the PC world with out the restrictions of the old SID chip, everyone was keeping with the 3 voice limit. I thought more people would want to expand to 4 or 6 voices. (The 2nd chip add on.)
If I wanted to publish ('share') music, it would most likely be with the publisher's of the sheet choir music as a practice aid. For that default instrument is adequate. Sort of like the most recorded person in history is the lady in the 1940's with the 'generic' voice who did demo records for the publishing industry. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 964 |
For most of us, 3 channels is the challenge.
There is the Hardsid card (4 sids posible), sidstation (advanced knobs n other kinky hardware), sid softsynths or homebrew sidsynths. And Goattracker 1 has the possibility to compose for 2 sids. |
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scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1578 |
Quote:I need something to help me stay on pitch singing, get rythms correct, and help train my ear to stay on my part when hearing the other voices.
This is something you'll have to do yourself.
The only tip I can give you is listen, listen, listen and listen.
Listen to tunes as a composer. Listen how they are composed; structures, sounds, breaks, intros, outros.
This way you'll train yourself and distinguish if something is out of tune or not.
Also, being able to play piano or reading tablatures isn't always a good thing.
Some composers see this as a restriction and have to make music by certain rules where untrained composers don't have these 'limits'.
But once again: listen!
And remember: If it sounds good, it is good ([c] Joe Meek)
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 3083 |
annw: I'm sure you can find tens of programs for PC that can do what you need, without the today-ridiculous restrictions.
With real note sheet input and display.
But I must admit your totally... out-of-this-scene view at the SID is refreshing :D |
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Tch
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Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512 |
Following SCout here..
Being pretty tone-deff,I managed to play a bass-guitar anyway.
Just put the musics you want to know on your MP3-player and keep listening to them.
Eventually the tune becomes a part of you!
If you want to make sounds.... LISTEN!
(and if you want to make pictures.... SEE! ;) |
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V-12
Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 207 |
LOL, emulation will never be 100%, otherwise it wouldn't be called emulation :) |
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annw
Account closed
Registered: Feb 2006
Posts: 4 |
I don't have an MP3. It wouldn't help anyway as music is not downloadable. It is played with real people 'reading'
sheet music at the church with a pianist/organist.
That means I can only hear the music for a few minutes once a week. I am trying to find a replacement for pianist so I can hear more frequently.
I have been trying to find a windows/PC program that does what I want without any luck. If any of you know of one, PLEASE let me know.
The gentleman at the electronic music store did download one for me, put it was set up mainly for printing out with only the IBM PC one tone BEEP. I couldn't figure out how to get that one to work either.
The only program I was familiar with that did what I want was Compute's SID Editor. I was hoping SID musicians would know where I could find a copy or the name of a good replacement.
I keep watching e-bay when I can.
I also looked at Radio Shack & Casio web page for the 'player pianos' they sell that would let a computer program the keyboard for the short phrases I need the most. Everything I found goes the other way, the keyboard programs the computer. Great for professional musicians. No help for me. |
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