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2005-09-24 07:56
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Credit for music ripping?

Could we have the possibility to set a credit for "ripp"? There are a lot of "ripp-demos" around 85-87, where the main effort is ripping the music out. (e.g No Comments, NSC Sounds XIV) I usually put this credit down as "crack", but it would be nice to have a bit more nuance...
2005-09-24 08:09
Shake

Posts: 134
i add such releases as:
code:..... the one who ripped it and made the screen around it
music: ....the one who actually did the music

i think that's the way?
2005-09-24 08:43
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Quote: i add such releases as:
code:..... the one who ripped it and made the screen around it
music: ....the one who actually did the music

i think that's the way?


It could be, but where does it say? Ripping isn't exactly coding, so it's kind of strange to mark it as such. "crack" is more accurate, but if "ripp" was available the confusion would be less.
I'd say "code" for the one who coded the demo, "ripp" for the one who "ripped" out the music if this was a significant effort, and "music" for the one who wrote the music.
2005-09-24 09:08
V-12

Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 206
no need to add this function. was there ever any function on the scene called "ripper" ? quess what would be if everyone start to rip everything ;-) by the way, ripping is not cracking, ripping is nothing special. Better give the proper credits for the author of the tune.
2005-09-24 09:30
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Quote: no need to add this function. was there ever any function on the scene called "ripper" ? quess what would be if everyone start to rip everything ;-) by the way, ripping is not cracking, ripping is nothing special. Better give the proper credits for the author of the tune.

So which is hardest do you think: cracking it (Arkanoid +2), or ripping the music from it? (No Comments)
I'd say that the main effort of No Comments is ripping the music out. Ofcourse credit should be given to both the ripper and the musician. The "ripp" entry should ofcourse only be used if the ripping was a significant event.
I never heard of a function called ripper, but a lot of crackers around 1986-1987 released disks full of ready made ripps which demo coders could use.
2005-09-24 09:46
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Very good example, that Arkanoid music was a real pain to make a clean rip of.
2005-09-25 14:43
Perff
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Posts: 1679
I'm not sure what to think of this topic, but the credit "Ripp" is now created. Then the people can use it if they want, or not. :)
2005-09-25 15:23
Puterman
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 188
Shouldn't that be "rip"? :)
2005-09-25 16:02
Perff
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Posts: 1679
Perhaps. :) I'm a bit tired today, and I just copy-pasted what was written in this thread.

"Rip" or "Ripp"?
2005-09-25 16:36
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
It's "to rip", I know what I'm talking about. ;-)
2005-09-25 16:45
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954
its 'rest in peace, please'; ripp.

btw, it makes no sense if crackers dont add credits for the creators of the game too.
2005-09-25 16:52
Perff
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Posts: 1679
Hmm.. That didn't help much. :)
2005-09-25 17:06
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Quote: Hmm.. That didn't help much. :)

Excellent!
Rip is fine with me. "Ripping" would be fine aswell, compared to "Linking".
Prototype: No Comments.
2005-09-26 07:08
H.O
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Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 70
Nice addition. Now I can add credit for music ripping to those demos where I didnt do the rip myself.

As for the demo "no comment" , shouldnt it have "text: mr.z&ixion" in the credits too?
2005-09-26 13:02
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
I don't know, but in the old day "ripping" was a bad thing .. ;)
2005-09-26 13:20
Morpheus

Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 152
Ripping code was a bad thing yes, and ripping music from others' demos was considered lame. But not ripping from games (that would be a 'good' rip). Of course there should be a credit type called "Ripping" or "Music ripped by" or what ever (and the original composer should OF COURSE be credited too). I think that everything that's been done for a demo should be credited for, no matter if it's good or bad. That's how we do it on C64hq, and I think that's the best and the fairest way.
2005-09-26 16:19
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Quote: Nice addition. Now I can add credit for music ripping to those demos where I didnt do the rip myself.

As for the demo "no comment" , shouldnt it have "text: mr.z&ixion" in the credits too?


Yes. Didn't read the scroll actually. Just added the rip credit from memory. Added now.
2005-09-27 05:38
Yodelking

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 189
What would be even better is if after the "Music: Martin Galway" was a symbol with a link to the SID.
2005-09-27 16:50
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: What would be even better is if after the "Music: Martin Galway" was a symbol with a link to the SID.


why were suggestions never turned into reality? should be easy for Perff to code
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