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bepp
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 265 |
Date in search results
It would be very helpful to have the date of the release in search results, especially for large result sets. Would make it quicker to pinpoint the actual release among the set. |
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Scarzix
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 143 |
yes, let's see the release dates for search results and please also consider ordering them after it.
When I search for a demo, a SID or composer I often get like 20-30 entries and then I have to manually open each and everyone to see which one is the newest entry or how far from eachother they are.
Surely, the created_date gotta be a field in the CSDb-SQL already somehow?
Please... add it to search results.
Cheers
Scarzix/Offence
http://www.berggreens.dk
http://www.berggreens.dk/c64 |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932 |
I'd love to see that as well :) |
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Ejner
Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 43 |
I'd love that aswell! Sorted by release date would be a great addition to search results :-) |
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1679 |
Added date for search result on releases for starters. No sort option yet, and date only for releases.
Picked some random color for the date so it is easy to spot. :)
Feedback? |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
Awesome! |
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bepp
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 265 |
Just noticed! Baby, this is what we have been waiting for so long!!! Thanks Perff. It makes locating relevant releases a quicker task! |
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Doc Strange
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 101 |
That's great, thanks Perff! |
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Scarzix
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 143 |
Great Perff, just wondering. I tried to search on myself aka "scarzix" and find some SIDs I did back in time, but my latest releases arent show in search results? so if anyone decides to search for me, only 23 years old stuff show up? Howcome, have I marked my releases wrong? I was eg. Credited in Scrollwars and CheeseCutter to name a few real releases? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
the SID database comes from recent HVSC, so you'll have to wait until next update :)
BUT - this only works in normal, not in advanced search? |
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Scarzix
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 143 |
Okay, so if you are credited in a release from a group release, like our Scrollwars/Offence demo, it does not show up when you search for a person. Unless you are a musician and the SID you made is already imported from HVSC?
Say what? So I cant search for a coders releases if he is just part of a group ? Nor a graphic artist?
Not sure I get it. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3193 |
Scarzix: latest HVSC update is from end of june 2013, all the sids found from that date, until next HVSC release due at end of december, are NOT YET available as sid in HVSC, so they won't be found of course. When HVSC#60 will be out, Perff will update the sid database also here so they will be found by searching them as sids, and me and others will link the sids to their respective entries. It's not like one releases a tune and it will automagically shows up in HVSC. It's all a manual work. So be patient. Your credits for music are shown anyway in your scener entry, and in all the releases using your tunes. |
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Scarzix
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 143 |
iAN CooG: its not what I am saying. :-)
I am wondering why none of the releases (as in PRG/demos I have made this year) doesnt show up when you search for "scarzix". I dunno if I am just a newbie not understanding CSDb.dk or the search algoritme just has errors/flaws?
But I find it rather strange that the "normal search" gives me:
Your search for 'scarzix' in SIDs found the following 28 results :
28 SID matches...
BUT not SCROLLWARS, not that I have released some of my tunes as seperate PRG files and not the CheeseCutter editor where I am credited.
Its not about me, but how the search doesnt show real results - or is the search only for SID results?
I completely understand that the HVSC isnt updated realtime. No problem about that, 100% logical to me as its a manual action and you can't do this everyday. But searching for a coder, graphic artist, swapper etc. something where we have attached/linked our name/handle into a release, ought to show up if there is any point in select these things when releasing - at least thats how I see it from a SQL database point of view. I dunno how this site is configured, but currently I think the search has room for improvement.
A default result ought to show what a "scener" has produced or been part of, doesnt it? |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3193 |
Quote:
Your search for 'scarzix' in SIDs found the following 28 results
I think you haven't actually understood, so I'll try one last time: Scrollwars tunes are NOT in HVSC#59, but on the update pack of HVSC#60 which is NOT released yet and NOT on CSDb.
OF COURSE you can't find them yet here, and not anywhere because they STILL NOT EXIST for the public, they are still on MY HD and other HVSC members HDs, they will be released in December, and after that Perff will update CSDb sid database with the HVSC#60 update, so they WILL be shown, but only then. And even if you add a downloadable sid file to an entry, and that's not in the sid database of CSDb, it won't be shown as SID search, because it's just another release file, they're not connected. In other words, the SID search on CSDb only knows the tunes that are in the current HVSC.
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A default result ought to show what a "scener" has produced or been part of, doesnt it?
If one searches for the scener Scarzix, he will find his entry with all the releases where he got some credit. if you search for SIDs, you only find those that are in the sid database, not those that don't exist yet. A music credit is one thing, a ripped sid is another.
If you search for a RELEASE named Scarzix, of course it won't show anything. |
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Ejner
Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 43 |
Perff: Thanks :-)
Scarzix: A search for Scarzix will give you 1 scener match and 28 SID matches. Click on the Scener match and you can see what you have been credited for... There are many recent 2013 credits :-) |
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Scarzix
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 143 |
OMG! iAN CooG... did you code this search algoritme since you are making it about SID search all the time?
Now, I will try to explain the "problem" once more. Please READ and understand it, instead of trying to explain why HVSC isnt updated which has NOTHING to do with my question.
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As a "user of this website" I see a Search field in CSDb.dk
I put in the name of any person. I used myself as an example, lets say I used "Perff" instead. Then I would expect all the things he had released or credited within to show up - aka a list of search results. Hopefully sorted by date, so I could see what he had done recently and before etc.
Just checking, it actually DOES show what he has been credited in.
But if you, like me, is a musician too, the search result is suddently a whole other thing?!
I mentioned myself as example, only because I know what the expected result should look like. Not to complain, but to point out that the way is shows the result is a bit akward.
For me, it shows a link to my "scener" profile (not opening the profile as with Perff), so the results from within my profile aren't part of the search results.
lastly, now mentioning the SID issue as you keep refering to HVSC - could easily have been "mentioned" on CSDb.dk automatically, and perhaps just "mentioned" as they are registrated upon release and therefore are IN the database already. Not as part of HVSC, but as tunes linked to a composer.
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My point is: when I search for something, I expect the search result to show me EVERYTHING possible regarding the topic I am searching for. Not a "perhaps I will show you a scener, perhaps a SID list, perhaps something else".
Imagine Google deciding to show me images only if I ever had uploade a Photo to Google+ and then I would have to click on my name to see the text results.
So. iAN CooG, this is NOT about ME, nor my SIDs, but what I would think a Search-engine would provide of search results, seeing it from a users point of perspective.
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I look forward to an answer not containing yet another explanation about why HVSC isnt updated yet etc. thats totally out of the context here... I think HVSC is an awesome add on to the community, but thats not what I am searching in from CSDb.dk is it? its the RELEASES of everything in the scene. So show me the results of EVERYTHING, dont list my "scene handle" and then a list of SIDs - the oppersite would be more logical.
Show the scener, and on this profile, list all the SIDs the person also had made... or the amount with a link to the list.
CSDb.dk is a database of releases, right? or did I miss something (again?)
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Another example: try searching for "Commando" - this brings up a great overview of releases... grouped into sections about cracks, groups, sceners, SIDs, even BBS matches - thats REALLY good, and how I would expect the search to work on any scener too. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
actually i think the fact that it shows the SIDs in the "normal" search _at all_ is the bug here. and it shouldnt show even more, it should show less. ie a normal search should search in the entries names - no more no less. if you want to search credits, use advanced search or alternatively click on the link to the scener entry you found.
btw if you search for "perff" in normal search - it brings you straight to his scener entry, it doesnt show *anything* (because there exists exactly one entry in the db that matches the search query). basically this is what should happen everytime you search for a scener - unless there are two or more that match the search query |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3193 |
I still don't see what the problem is, use the dropdown menu, select Sceners instead of All, and it will find your entry and nothing else. If you leave All selected, the search will find anything that has the word you typed. If the search will find only one thing it will be opened directly, if it was a scener or a release name. |
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Scarzix
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 143 |
If I let it stay with the default "all" selected, and write "scarzix", why isnt scrollwars in the search results shown? Why isnt Cheesecutter 2.5.0, why isnt Triad Release the Cheese music compo disk shown then?
btw. I agree with Groepaz, the list of SIDs shouldnt be shown in the "all" search. Only the amount of matches.
As long as I dont specifically select a scener as filter, I believe that anything containing the search terms should be found. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
Quote:If I let it stay with the default "all" selected, and write "scarzix", why isnt scrollwars in the search results shown? Why isnt Cheesecutter 2.5.0, why isnt Triad Release the Cheese music compo disk shown then?
because none of these contain "scarzix" in the entries name, as simple as that.
Quote:As long as I dont specifically select a scener as filter, I believe that anything containing the search terms should be found.
anything containing the search terms *in the entries name* to be exact, yes. |
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Scarzix
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 143 |
Ok. I'll rest my case then, but I still agree with you Groepaz regarding the list of SIDs showing when you search "all". It shouldnt show them, only count of them then, if "all" isnt supposed to show ALL connections to search term. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
ALL means to search *in the entries name* of all listed categories. not "all connections", whatever that is. if you want to search for everything credited to a scener, you either click on its scener entry, or use the advanced search. |
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Ejner
Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 43 |
Yay! :-)
The search results are now also SORTED by their release date!!
Thanks! That's a really cool improvement!! :-) |
