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2013-10-16 10:43
bepp

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 263
Question regarding subgroups

I'm wondering how to handle subgroups correctly.

For instance, scener S is member of X which is a subgroup to Y.

1) Does that make S a member of Y? I.e. should he be listed in the members of Y as well?
2) Should a release be credited to both X and Y? Even if it was formally released by Y?

What's the "correct" way to do this?
2013-10-16 19:23
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11107
this cant be represented in the current database scheme unfortunately (and its not trivial to solve either).

currently ppl usually do this:

- S is a member of X
- in "trivia" of X it says that it was a subgroup of Y. maybe also the other way around in Y
- credits apply to those who are directly involved, usually X
2013-10-16 22:34
TPM

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 109
Can you name some of these subgroups?
2013-10-16 22:35
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2060
I think as long as there is no "subgroup of"/"mother group of" field, the way Groepaz described (Trivia with Hyperlink) is the best workaround (unless the entry is locked, hehehe)
2013-10-16 22:47
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11107
one popular umbrella group is eg The Light Circle (which i think may also serve as an example on how to do this, note backlink in eg Radwar entry)
2013-10-16 23:34
bepp

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 263
A specific case is The Cosmic Force which was a subgroup to The Danger Zone (who in turn had moar subgroups).

Their releases are labelled /DEVILS on disk, but in demos they often say "S of X of Y", i.e. they mention both their subgroup and the mother group.

Take Cosmic Bytes for instance. This is /DEVILS, but it's coded by "Flu from TCF for The Devils"... Still, I've left it as a Devils release and not TCF + Devils... Right or wong?

The trivia approach is fine, making cross links both to- and from the main group. I think that should be encouraged - in both directions!
2013-10-17 15:24
Celtic
Administrator

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807
When concerning releases i always added both the group and sub-group as releaser.

I did alot of work on The Artworx who used many many subgroups. Perhaps this entry and their releases will work well to see how i did it. System is not perfect, but subgroups are usually so complex i dont really know how to do it.
2013-10-17 16:31
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11107
wow, what a mess :)
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