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2008-01-05 08:51
Tim
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Why do old groups pop up in credits?

Hiya,

I am just wondering why old groups pop up in places where they do not belong.

For example:
Xiom +5P

Crack: Bordeaux of Acrise, Active, Disorder, Endless Piracy

I can understand Acrise (since i'm still in the active member status, allthough the group is desolved, so that's an error on the Acrise group maintenance by Mendrake obviously)

But why Disorder and Endless Piracy on a crack I did for Active?
 
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2008-01-05 14:55
assiduous
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Quote:
EDIT:
Another example is Laxity... he's at the moment a member of MON and Vibrants, but his recent releases still credit him as a member of Starion and Wizax! WTF?

That's because it isn't specified when he left Starion or Wizax. See Laxity- The database can't know if he left the groups in 1990 or yesterday so all releases after 10/88 will have Laxity credited as Laxity/Starion.
2008-01-06 00:23
Tim
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Hmm yes, it does seem to tie everything down to just a year and that’s it.
This is highly annoying though to be honest because I most certainly not (!) in more then one group at the time

Groepaz, actually I think the group membership is set correctly actually, so it’s not that.
Disorder (1-97 -> 9-97), Endless Piracy (27/12-96 -> 1-97)
Although I did notice I had not set the starting month for Active (9/97) yet, so changed that, but doesn’t make a difference since the crack is just dated 1997.

2008-01-06 00:38
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Hmm yes, it does seem to tie everything down to just a year and that’s it.
This is highly annoying though to be honest because I most certainly not (!) in more then one group at the time

Groepaz, actually I think the group membership is set correctly actually, so it’s not that.
Disorder (1-97 -> 9-97), Endless Piracy (27/12-96 -> 1-97)
Although I did notice I had not set the starting month for Active (9/97) yet, so changed that, but doesn’t make a difference since the crack is just dated 1997.



Ofcourse the crack must be correctly dated as well. Just 1997 isn't good enough in this case.
2008-01-06 07:50
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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what tdj said :)
2008-01-07 03:18
Tim
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ok ok , i'll settle with being happy if i can find any date info's or clues.. man, reading scrolltexts is getting a true pain in the ass :s
2008-01-07 09:07
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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just to say it again... there is no such "tag" as conrad suggested because it would be redundant information in the database (rule #1: never store redundant information!). second such a tag would discourage people from entering/correcting the actual dates.

so yes, while such a tag might be useful in a short term to improve the presentation layer, the current way is better on the long run.
2008-01-07 09:43
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
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Quote: Quote:
EDIT:
Another example is Laxity... he's at the moment a member of MON and Vibrants, but his recent releases still credit him as a member of Starion and Wizax! WTF?

That's because it isn't specified when he left Starion or Wizax. See Laxity- The database can't know if he left the groups in 1990 or yesterday so all releases after 10/88 will have Laxity credited as Laxity/Starion.


I've been wondering about all that really - especially as I'm listed as an EX member of both Starion and Wizax (although no particular end-of-membership-date is set), one could argue that there's a flaw in the deduction :).. I guess I could set on, but if I did it'd be incorrect (which is why I'm not doing it) because I can't rememeber what of if I officially left... at least Starion.

EDIT: With a little deduction, I could fix it myself :).. Starion end date is an estimate, but I guess that's not really important.. or?
2008-01-07 10:43
Conrad

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I wouldn't see estimation as a felony in some cases. :)
2008-01-07 10:45
chatGPZ

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Quote:

EDIT: With a little deduction, I could fix it myself :).. Starion end date is an estimate, but I guess that's not really important.. or?


if you aren't sure, it'd be nice if you say so in the trivia or comments or whatever else :) maybe someone else can fix it later....or something =)
2008-01-07 14:59
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459
Right :)
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