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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
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Demoscene book released
For those who missed the news:
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The First Book ever about the Demoscene is ready to be released! Titled: "Demoscene: The Art of Real-Time". 72 pages, full colour, professional quality, various writers, lots of visuals/design. Published by Even Lake Studios & katastro.fi. The book is released at the Sonar festival in Barcelona 17-19.6.2004. This 'art style' book is for everyone, not just for demosceners. It has a longer in-depth history article, case articles and 100% demoscene designs. For more info please visit: http://www.evenlakestudios.com/books
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Crossfire
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Wow, sounds interesting!!! Are the authours former sceners, or? (might be a silly question, but bear over with me..) |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
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Quote: Wow, sounds interesting!!! Are the authours former sceners, or? (might be a silly question, but bear over with me..)
I googled on Lassi Tasajärvi and found out that he has a byterapers.com e-mail address. Bent Stamnes was an organizer of The Gathering parties.
But maybe some ppl can give use more info.
R.
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
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authors = rawer and gloom/excess. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Well, as I happen to be in Helsinki this week I guess I'll go visit the KIASMA museum and pick up a copy of this book :) |
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Ed
Registered: May 2004
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I wonder what they will leave out in order to write a very successful demo-history ? |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: I wonder what they will leave out in order to write a very successful demo-history ?
some clues might have been given in the discussion at
pouet, http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=1192
"by first glance of the published screenshots, i'd say to be in the book you'd have to be finnish and in one of their supported groups (fx. complex or katastro.fi)"
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blackdroid
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I prefer this quote from pouet
"Having a book makes it easier to show your kids what daddy was doin' before he met mommy :)."
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drake
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go away with this book, better to write one ourselves. is this scene already part of the past? then we should write a book about the ntsc scene, pal scene, the cracking scene, about the old scene vs. new scene, etc etc ;-) maybe a book from each country, as like a serie.
or just do as clinton did: write a book, my (scene)life and wait for reactions and skandals ;-)
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Crossfire
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Yeah Drake, I'm on for that idea.... |
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Nightlord
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i think it is a positive thing to have such a book around for whatever publicity and acquaintance it brings to the concept of demoscene for wide audiences. i am tried of trying to explain to other people what it is that i am doing or the good old "scene is a collection of people who ..." or even "first there were crackers... " mumbo jumbo...
who gets to be in this particular book is not worth discussing for me since it is sure that it will leave some people out. no offence to anyone but if you want to make sure that you are mentioned in a demoscene book, then do a bunch of demos and write a book about them. :)
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blackdroid
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nightlord: couldnt agree more. |
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CyberBrain
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What i hope it'll be, is a book that's interesting and fun to read, and not a boring scientific paper which contains all the small insignificant details. I think a book like that should give the reader an overview of the important things. (only an overview - details would make the book too big (and dull)) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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I would have loved to tell you what the book is about. Unfortunately the Kiasma museum (which was 2 mins. walking from my hotel - talk about coincedence!) didn't have it in stock just yet - probably early next week but by now I'm already back in Holland :( |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: What i hope it'll be, is a book that's interesting and fun to read, and not a boring scientific paper which contains all the small insignificant details. I think a book like that should give the reader an overview of the important things. (only an overview - details would make the book too big (and dull))
no point telling the details, people will disagree anyways.
just wait until tomcat's book is released, and the fight
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Ed
Registered: May 2004
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I wonder what's so darn scary about scientific papers. Havn't anyone figured what would happen if the demo-scene turned into something else than what is right now, and what it has been. Yeah sure: Money, fame, all that crap or whatever have you. No game-companies anymore or lonely suckers, fun stuff alone, but something else... I am telling you.
I guess this will only be the real start for something far more advanced, even more polemic, discursive and so forth.. so go on guys, write books about your demos and about the scene in general. Would be nice for a change so see what someone actually thinks about their stuff, their history and so on - some more depth to the scene I would say rather than angry faces and low level talks on Irc after some demoreviews. hahaha! :D |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: no point telling the details, people will disagree anyways.
just wait until tomcat's book is released, and the fight
begins...
I hope Tomcat (he probably reads this discussion) will ask few C64 sceners to read the book before publishing to let them review (at least) the C64-scene related parts of the book.
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
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creamd: tomcat ofcourse already did that, he even managed to interview some ppl taking part in the hw design of the c64. (cant recall the name(s)) |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
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I was one of those who checked for errors.
But it looked good!
If i remember right, MWS also did a check and some others.
Tomcat has been on irc several times to gather and verify information. |
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Matt
Registered: Apr 2002
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where can I order this book then?
[edit] nevermind, found it :/ |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: creamd: tomcat ofcourse already did that, he even managed to interview some ppl taking part in the hw design of the c64. (cant recall the name(s))
Great to hear. |
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drake
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hey creamd ;-)
huh, now we are waiting for the first group who'll write -the making of...- book.
is it not a bad idea to make a dvd or something more multimedia? more possibilities and you can skip the dull parts or read/see them later.
im talking about interviews, making of a demo...some history, some avi or divx stuff from parties..i know its possible it already exist..but where?
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
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and while were at it:
have an extremely interesting read of the c64 at this wonderful site.
c64's history:
http://www.commodore.ca/products/c64/commodore_64.htm
CBM's history:
http://www.commodore.ca/history/company/chronology_portcommodor..
wow and just found this gem, an interview with jack tramiel himself:
http://www.commodore.ca/history/people/1989_you_dont_know_jack...
commercials and interview clips:
http://www.commodore.ca/gallery/video/video.htm
and this is the most interesting IMHO, an article of the design history of the c64. (now you can learn why we have only 8 sprites, why there are no wavetables in sid, etc:)
http://www.commodore.ca/gallery/magazines/c64_design/c64_design..
have a good read! |
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Lord Crucifier
Registered: Feb 2004
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So how big a part of this book is actually talking about the C64 demo scene? From the seven preview pages I couldn't spot much C64 action... :( |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
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talking with tomcat it looks that it will have a c64, an amiga, and a pc section. so dont worry :) |
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Lord Crucifier
Registered: Feb 2004
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I read on the MAZ site that the book is sold out and a "V2" will be released... any news on this? |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
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Wouldn't it be a massive TV report, doing interviews with sceners and visiting parties & stuff? :-)
Books are for nerds... |
