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Antichrist/G★P
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Sex'n'Crime online
Sex'n'Crime is back. ;)
http://www.sexncrime.net/
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Ben
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I have enjoyed S'n'C a lot in the early days! I hope you can live up to the expectations, Oliver :)
Anyhow, good to see guys like you re-entering the scene. Good luck!
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Antichrist/G★P
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Thanks, Ben! :-) |
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Tristan
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When I was a wee young importer way back then.... I loved reading s+c. Made lots of new contacts reading that mag. That resulted in lots of nice imports to the states.
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The Arrogance
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Well, Oliver was really a bastard back then, though a smart and tricky one, but still a bastard! ;) Anyway, what i wanted to say is that with his magazines and the way he wrote 'em (or shall i say used 'em ?! ;)) he was definitly pushing many careers... in one direction or another. Therefore the people either hated him or admired him, some were even said that they had been sticking that deeply in his arse, that they were the first to know, what he has been eating a few hours before. ;) Admiration or hate, nothing neutral inbetween, though that could have naturally changed at any time. But hey, just think about what would have happened if he would not have started with Sex'n'Crime ?! The scene would have been a lot more grey-coloured i guess. It was just a question of time for something new after all that "loving and hugging eachother" in "Illegal" for example.. and there they had it, either laughing about the ones that were made looking stupid or hating him and building dozens of federations against him! This still makes me kinda smile! ;)
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Antichrist/G★P
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Hmm, I don't think I was a bastard back then.
I do remember being on the phone with you a lot back then though, and I thought we were friends. You called me a lot, and I even interviewed you for Sex'n'Crime because we were friends. You never said a nasty word on the phone... and then one day I found out that you had released an anti-GP intro. That was the first time I found out you didn't like me. ;-) |
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Master Jam
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I remember Sex'n'Crime... was one of the best mags back in the days. Nice to see it is back!!
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Antichrist/G★P
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Arrogance, I see you're up to your old tricks...
http://www.sexncrime.net/index.php?p=4#comments
I'd think by now you wouldn't feel the need anymore to talk nice to me, and then write shit about me behind my back.
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The Arrogance
Registered: May 2004
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Quote: Arrogance, I see you're up to your old tricks...
http://www.sexncrime.net/index.php?p=4#comments
I'd think by now you wouldn't feel the need anymore to talk nice to me, and then write shit about me behind my back.
Well well, once again, another day, another Forum, once more defending myself against assumptions. Seems to be quite trendy these days..
@ Antichrist:
Oliver,
i am sorry, but this story somehow irritates me a little. No, to be honest, actually there are already two irritating entries in this Forum made by you. But let's get the things sorted one by another...
First of all, concerning my last entry in this Forum, i got the feeling that there's need for a short explanation, though i thought that you would understand my post the way it was meant. To call you a "Bastard" wasn't meant negativly, malicious or insulting. Much more it was my intention to state the opposite, and taking a close look on the rest of my post, you can obviously see, that it is a positive review of Sex'n'Crime and the way you did it. Honestly Oliver, in my eyes it turns out to be rather clearly, ain't it ?! Calling you a "Bastard" , with a smile in my face (therefore ending my statements with a smilie upthere), is almost meant the same ironic and smiling way, as having a smile on my face and calling my girlfriend a "bitch" ("Miststück"). In that case she would never come to the conclusion, that it could have been my intention to insult her. But nevertheless, fact is, that the word "bitch" can also be interpreted as some Synonym for "whore", but regarding my smile and in connection to the rest of my words/text, it is more than obviously, that it was not meant like that in the way it was said and how it was said. The same goes for calling you a "Bastard" and ending my sentence with a smilie. Ok ?! ;) I dont think that I have to remind anyone about the fact, that I surely didnt register to this Site to provoke childish quarrels or raised voices. Just like you, Oliver, I was part of a scene that is history and gone for good now, and I will surely take care not to drop back again into any old scene-typical behavior. In case someone wants to believe in still being a part of the scene and wants to revive old customs in handling eachother, may gladly do so, but I will surely not participate in any Hey, Im king, you better get down on your knees, Lamer! oldschool-scene-behaviors.
Now to the 2nd point. I should have released an Anti-GP-Intro ?! What the... who told you that really ridiculously, weak and senseless Fairy-Tale about "Me releasing an Anti-GP-Intro" ?! See Oliver, i don't remember the exact amount of Intros i have made in my active time, but it weren't many (at least not in comparison to other people in my groups), that's for sure. Hell, i was far to lazy to code Intros for my own groups, so why the hell should i have spent any effort (effort that i didn't even want to spent on coding Intros for my own groups) in coding an Anti-GP-Intro ?! Furthermore, what should has been the target i could have achieved with doing that ?! What i mean is, i don't even have the slightest idea right now what i should have used such an Intro for.. neither today, nor 10 or more years ago. and how comes you never ever said anything about that to me or simply asked me, if i had done such an Intro ?! This would have given me the chance to mabye clear up those assumptions. But anyway, being the thrustworthy and loyale person i believe i am, i can truly tell you now, that i never made any Anti-GP-Intro. I cannot see any reason, that would have been enough motivation to have done this Intro, because (using your words and returning them to you again): I thought we were friends, too. Hopefully the person, who tried to make you believe in that colourful fantasy, at least had a good and certain reason to spread such bullshit about me. Though i didn't know a single word about this assumption before i read your post and my time in the scene is gone for more than a decade now, something like this still makes me feel angry and dissapointed. Whatever, I didnt do any Anti-Intro
. But how does that Intro look like and is there any resource i can get it from ?! At least once i wanna see the Intro i should have done, but didn't do...
As i have already written far too much text anyway, i will come to an end, just giving you my point of view on your suspicion, that i should have written all the text at the Sex'n'Crime Forum, hiding myself cowardly behind a wrong name, officially talking nice to you and acting friendly, in order to talk badly about you behind your back. In case this would be the truth, i should really follow the advice Captain Kidd gave me a few weeks ago in some other Forum and better get some professional help, because than i should not take it too easy or make fun out of my situation, as suffering some serious brain-damage requires straight psychological and medical treatment.
Oliver, which Daemon took possession of you that you completely out of a sudden come up with such an idea and believe that I would actually play such ridiculous and childish games ? It is the year 2004 and i have already passed the age of 30 and therefore i consider myself a grown up adult, which of course aswell indicates acting like a grown up adult, instead of behaving like a dumb teenager. Not even when i was some 18 or 19 year old scener back in 1990 i would have acted like this, lacking the slightest touch of creativity and niveau. I have always despised people, that were hiding themselves behind any other names, just because they did not have the balls to stand up for what they were saying/doing. But then again, it is nothing unusal.. or did you ever see any coward taking over responsibility for anything ?! That's why he's a coward. Although i have no idea what your assumption is based on, you can believe in my words without any doubt that it wasn't me who wrote that crap at your Forum.
I know Oliver, people are talking a lot and "words only" mostly prove nothing. So i would really like to get some light into that story, because now i am into it and i would really like to see my formerly white waistcoat being completely cleaned to white again. And perhaps you will even show a strong and fair character and say "Sorry" in public (CSDb), just like you were pointing at me so easily and fast at CSDb and your Sex'n'Crime-Forum.
Ok, in order to weaken the suspicion and to give you a proof, that I was neither responsible for the entries (at your Forum) made as "Gotcha", nor for those as "Dark Man", I would like to ask you to post (into this Forum please) that certain IP-address, which you brought into connection with my person. Since you are the opinion that this IP is mine anyway, I gladly permit you to publish this IP address here. Thanks.
Awaiting your help and cooperation to devide assumptions from facts.
Off for some business.
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Antichrist/G★P
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Your IP address on Sex'n'Crime was: 217.86.97.14
And the old anti-GP intro I'm referring to was the imitation of our "Europe's #1" intro. Back then, Success replaced the circling stars sprites with a sprite that said "Fuck GP" or something like that.
When I later asked you why your group did that, you said it was just for fun. |
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The Arrogance
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@ Antichrist
About the Anti-GP-Intro, well now i remember that we were talking about that topic on the phone back then, although i cannot certainly recall anything in detail about that conversation anymore. Did i say that it was me who had done this Intro ?! If i could just remember.. it's too long ago.
About the IP..
Ok, here is what CyberBrain mailed to me after i requested him to check the Log-Files for the period from 19th of October till 21th of October, because one of so called "Gotcha's" last posts looks like this:
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Still one of those unloved persons? Get real, OMG.
Comment by Gotcha 10/20/2004 @ 10:59 am
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These are the Log-Files from CSDb, mailed to me by CyberBrain:
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all your IP-adresses seem to be on the form: 217.86..., 217.233..., 62.180..., 195.182...
On the 19th-20th you used:
#2485 The Arrogance 22/10-2004 22:44.47 22/10-2004 23:03.37 00:18.50 217.233.165.88
#2485 The Arrogance 22/10-2004 21:22.04 22/10-2004 21:24.39 00:02.35 217.233.165.88
#2485 The Arrogance 22/10-2004 19:15.35 22/10-2004 19:41.25 00:25.50 217.233.165.88
#2485 The Arrogance 22/10-2004 02:09.58 22/10-2004 02:23.42 00:13.44 217.86.96.175
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 19:17.31 21/10-2004 19:33.03 00:15.32 217.86.96.175
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 18:34.32 21/10-2004 18:49.46 00:15.14 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 16:05.57 21/10-2004 16:06.53 00:00.56 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 15:08.36 21/10-2004 15:08.36 00:00.00 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 14:02.12 21/10-2004 14:33.29 00:31.17 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 12:22.21 21/10-2004 12:22.21 00:00.00 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 11:57.14 21/10-2004 12:21.51 00:24.37 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 03:54.07 21/10-2004 04:09.57 00:15.50 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 00:22.07 21/10-2004 00:22.07 00:00.00 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 20/10-2004 22:32.41 20/10-2004 22:32.54 00:00.13 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 20/10-2004 21:32.19 20/10-2004 21:53.48 00:21.29 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 20/10-2004 16:16.02 20/10-2004 16:54.11 00:38.09 62.180.231.196
#2485 The Arrogance 20/10-2004 16:15.56 20/10-2004 16:15.56 00:00.00 62.180.231.196
#2485 The Arrogance 20/10-2004 16:15.49 20/10-2004 16:15.52 00:00.03 62.180.231.196
#2485 The Arrogance 19/10-2004 19:32.38 19/10-2004 22:22.51 02:50.13 217.233.190.234
#2485 The Arrogance 19/10-2004 17:28.16 19/10-2004 17:48.45 00:20.29 217.86.100.110
But CyberBrain also made me aware of the fact, that i had really used the IP you wrote in your last post to log onto CSDb once, not in the period from 19th - 21th, but days before. Here is the log about this one:
#2485 The Arrogance 12/10-2004 23:21.17 13/10-2004 01:14.46 01:53.29 217.86.97.14
#2485 The Arrogance 12/10-2004 21:34.43 12/10-2004 22:42.00 01:07.17 217.86.97.14
#2485 The Arrogance 12/10-2004 20:42.01 12/10-2004 20:46.05 00:04.04 217.86.97.14
#2485 The Arrogance 12/10-2004 20:41.41 12/10-2004 20:42.57 00:01.16 217.86.97.14
this is the only day you've used 217.86.97.14
to log on to CSDb. (CyberBrain)
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Well, i cannot really see any connection to those posts at your Forum, except that i had owned that certain IP a few days earlier.. as a matter of fact, that i do not own a static IP, but get a new one whenever i restart my DSL-Router or my ISP disconnects the connection after a certain period and therefore my Router immediatley reconnects to my ISP again, it is quite obvious now, that i did not do any posts as "Gotcha" in the time they were done at your Forum, because my IP already wasn't the same anymore. By the way, any IP out of that IP-number-range is given out by DTAG whenever they are free to be used by the next customer to log in. The only thing that can be said for sure, is that this IP was definitly used by a german, who is a customer of DTAG (T-Online), too.
Again Oliver, it wasn't me and i hope you might believe in my words now. See, it would not make any sense at all to do such stupid things, at least not for me. It must have been someone that really dislikes you very much, and this criteria does not fit on me, does it ?! I am here for the fun of meeting old people again and taking a look at the things that were produced back then, but definitly not to revive any old disagreements to argue about.
L8er.
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I'll just confirm that what arrogance said that i said is right: Confirmed. |
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Antichrist/G★P
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As some of you may have noticed, a troll has been using the name Gotcha to post a couple of childish comments on S'n'C, trying to stir up some shit:
http://www.sexncrime.net/index.php?p=4
He also used the name "A Black Man" to accuse me of being a racist, and claimed I was a member of the KKK. Take a look at comment 161 here:
http://www.sexncrime.net/index.php?p=6
After glancing over the IP numbers and comparing them to the IP numbers of other users, I found only one match: The Arrogance. He and the loser hiding behind the name "Gotcha" were the only 2 people in the logs who use T-Online Dial Up. So I assumed that Arrogance was the troll hiding behind the name Gotcha. I was wrong.
Arrogance, I owe you an apology. I should have investigated further before accusing you.
Cyberbrain and I compared the IP numbers of the Gotcha troll on S'n'C and matched them to a user on CSDb. There is a 100% match. |
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Hein
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You could have deleted the record, instead of being a tiny bit paranoid.. |
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Sander
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Please get rid of all those banners, popups and crap. That's incredibly annoying. |
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hollowman
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Quote: Please get rid of all those banners, popups and crap. That's incredibly annoying.
come on, he's just trying to make a living, so lets all
contribute and click on a few ads and have some spyware
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Antichrist/G★P
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You don't have to click on the banners. They pay per view. And with a decent browser (Firefox for example) you don't see any pop ups anyway. |
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Antichrist/G★P
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Quote: You could have deleted the record, instead of being a tiny bit paranoid..
I did, but he kept reposting. That's why his comment 161 accuses me of censorship after I deleted his first post in which he accused me of being a KKK member. ;)
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TDJ
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Quote: I did, but he kept reposting. That's why his comment 161 accuses me of censorship after I deleted his first post in which he accused me of being a KKK member. ;)
OMG! You're in the KKK? :) |
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Antichrist/G★P
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No, I'm a member of the MI6 - secret agent in the service of the Queen. Maybe you've heard of me? 007? :) |
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TDJ
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Wait, I think I have .. isn't your name Christ? Anti Christ? |
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Antichrist/G★P
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Christ... Anti Christ. And I like my drinks shaken, not stirred. |
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Antichrist/G★P
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Well, the US presidential elections are less than 24 hours away, and those American rednecks still think Bush is a great president...
http://www.sexncrime.net/index.php?p=15
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Oxbow
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Please, do not bring in politics in this -scene- database, will you? |
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
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Nice site this Sex & Crime online.
The only thing not needed there in my opinion is all
those ugly marketing shit.
I'm happy we don't have that at our www.scs-trc.net site.
And YES I understand you can make money out it , but
hell , I don't need to make money out of everything !
Niels
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Antichrist/G★P
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Quote: Nice site this Sex & Crime online.
The only thing not needed there in my opinion is all
those ugly marketing shit.
I'm happy we don't have that at our www.scs-trc.net site.
And YES I understand you can make money out it , but
hell , I don't need to make money out of everything !
Niels
Well, I understand your point. Nobody likes ads. Newspapers would be more interesting if there were no ads for medicine and cars in them. TV shows would be more fun if there were no commercial breaks. Websites would be better if there were no banners.
Sex'n'Crime makes about $17 per day. That's about $500 per month. Simply by placing some ads on the pages. Why should I say no if someone wants to give me $500? The ads aren't so terrible. Someone who doesn't like them can simply ignore them.
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The Arrogance
Registered: May 2004
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Quote: Please, do not bring in politics in this -scene- database, will you?
Usually i would agree with you not to start up any political discussions here, but due to the fact, that far too many people all over the world lost their lifes, caused by more than stupid and senseless decisions, made by just one man, namely George W. Bush, it is absolutely OK, no, it is even recommended, to let everybody know, that the people outside the US really hope, that everyone that is in charge of voting for the new U.S. President, is finally stopping those criminals in the White House, that more than obviously just follow their economic targets to increase their personal profits. And if Oliver's articels at Sex'n'Crime may just lead to only one U.S. American reading them and therefore changing his opinion to NOT vote for Bush, then he should god damn advertise his link into every thread at CSDb. This is our world and we all suffer from people like Bush being President of the USA.
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Crossfire
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It's unbelievable to me - as it is for most europeans - that americans buy into Bush's propaganda so easily. Are these people blind to what he has been doing to their country and how many lifes this man must have on his conciousness and obviously doesn't even care?
I know this post doesn't bring anything new to the light of day, just felt I had to give my own two cents in these last hours upto the election.
Don't know much about Kerry, but he sure as hell can hardly be worse than W. |
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Tristan
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One thing that pisses me off is Euros who think they know the opinions of all Americans. Euros who think all Americans are the same. Euros who think that Americans either don't care or don't know whats happening in the world. pfftt. Think before you open your mouth.
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Antichrist/G★P
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Well, the Euros aren't that far off. Bush supporters really don't know what's going on...
http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_10_..
Quote:
Even after the final report of Charles Duelfer to Congress saying that Iraq did not have a significant WMD program, 72% of Bush supporters continue to believe that Iraq had actual WMD (47%) or a major program for developing them (25%). Fifty-six percent assume that most experts believe Iraq had actual WMD and 57% also assume, incorrectly, that Duelfer concluded Iraq had at least a major WMD program. Kerry supporters hold opposite beliefs on all these points.
Similarly, 75% of Bush supporters continue to believe that Iraq was providing substantial support to al Qaeda, and 63% believe that clear evidence of this support has been found. Sixty percent of Bush supporters assume that this is also the conclusion of most experts, and 55% assume, incorrectly, that this was the conclusion of the 9/11 Commission. Here again, large majorities of Kerry supporters have exactly opposite perceptions.
This tendency of Bush supporters to ignore dissonant information extends to other realms as well. Despite an abundance of evidence--including polls conducted by Gallup International in 38 countries, and more recently by a consortium of leading newspapers in 10 major countries--only 31% of Bush supporters recognize that the majority of people in the world oppose the US having gone to war with Iraq. Forty-two percent assume that views are evenly divided, and 26% assume that the majority approves. Among Kerry supporters, 74% assume that the majority of the world is opposed.
Similarly, 57% of Bush supporters assume that the majority of people in the world would favor Bush's reelection; 33% assumed that views are evenly divided and only 9% assumed that Kerry would be preferred. A recent poll by GlobeScan and PIPA of 35 of the major countries around the world found that in 30, a majority or plurality favored Kerry, while in just 3 Bush was favored. On average, Kerry was preferred more than two to one.
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Crossfire
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Quote: One thing that pisses me off is Euros who think they know the opinions of all Americans. Euros who think all Americans are the same. Euros who think that Americans either don't care or don't know whats happening in the world. pfftt. Think before you open your mouth.
OK ok Tristan, my apologies, I didn't make myself clear enough - I very well know there are alot of americans opposed to Bush. I was simply trying to state my confusion with the fact that these two people apparently stand so equally in the polls - so that MUST mean there are a LOT of americans who support Bush - but obviously not ALL of them.. |
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The Arrogance
Registered: May 2004
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Quote: One thing that pisses me off is Euros who think they know the opinions of all Americans. Euros who think all Americans are the same. Euros who think that Americans either don't care or don't know whats happening in the world. pfftt. Think before you open your mouth.
Hey hey hey, what's the matter, Scott ?!
In case you were not just referring to Crossfire's post, but also to mine, i will gladly answer on your last post, which by the way is substantially more superficial in reference to the Europeans and their opinion about the Americans, than you wanted to subordinate it to the Europeans in your last post. But first of all, calm down, Scott, this is a Forum and therefore used to have a discussion about the people's different opinions, nothing more, nothing less. Neither anyone tried to attack the American citizens in general, nor tried to make them look like dumb, head-nodding and opinionless fools. All what was said is adressed to the US-government, not to the American people in general, because your responsibility for the things that happened in the name of the US-government are as large as mine... close to zero. Any European being the centre of knowledge ?! I would never dare to say, that any European knows the opinion of all Americans, not even any American could know the opinion of all Americans, but then again i wish i would be the one to have all that knowledge, shit, i would rock the world the way it would suit all my needs. Furthermore, who said that all Americans are the same ?! Fortunately they are NOT!!!!! This at least gives hope for this election. By the way, i understand your annoyance about each so-called-important European following his opinion, to interfere into your presidency-election, but have you ever considered the fact that there is a reason for our interest into this years election-results, because as far as I can remember, the world was always more or less interested into the past presidency elections, but never ever has wished itself a certain result so much. Believe me, there is. You do not only find signs for it in the large European interest, but also in the record-suspicious election turnout and the many prominent advocates and adversaries of the two candidates. Why?! Because history is written exactly now, history, which from our point of view still is future, but hopefully a future, in which less humans, including 19- to 20-year old american soldiers, must die. And this is exactly what George. W. Bush, not the American people in general, but Bush and his currupted clan is standing for --> death, destruction and chaos all over the world, just to let them have a bath in the money they earned with Iraqi-oil and their Company-Participations.
Nobody ever said that Americans don't care or don't know what's happening in the world. In fact there are a lot Americans that do care and know what's happening in the world, hopefully enough to make sure that Bush is not gonna be reelected. This is not meant as an offence, but could you imagine, that the US-media is kind of very inward arranged and also synchronized ?! If so, how could any American citizen build an objective opinion about the things going on in the world ?! Or what do you think about that the big US-Media-Companies closed all their foreign offices ?! No need for them anymore ?! Really wonder why. Or what about Fox-News, who ended their daily news before starting the commercials with a countdown-slogan like: "Only 20 days left, before WE re-elect George W. Bush!". Now if this ain't biased, than i don't know. Again, no offence, just my opinion about the things we get to
know in the news every day, but neverthless i agree that most of us Europeans nevertheless have any idea what is going on for real, just because what we see, might also only be what more powerful people in the background want us to see and know. I would really like to have a look at the rest of the world from inside the US. I am sure, it would be a lot different. But now enough of all those world conspiracy theories. We will just wait for the result of that election, whatever it might be.
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TDJ
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Hey man, I watch West Wing, I know what's going on! |
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The Sorceress
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I have to say that I DO NOT support Bush and I do not believe he was even legally voted into office. I believe the votes were cheated and that Gore should be our president right now.
Anyways...
Well right now we are watching T.V. and waiting to hear how the elections come out. I hope and pray Kerry wins but its close right now and we don't know which way it will go. We don't know how Kerry will do if he is elected but you are right, at this stage of the game, anybody would be better then Bush.
With that said, I want to say Hi Scott! Long time no see!!! How are you doing?
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Crossfire
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Well, I guess the result speaks for itself - unfortunately. |
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TDJ
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But .. but .. in West Wing the democrats won! :(
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Crossfire
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If only real life were like fiction.....well, atleast sometimes ;-) |
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Antichrist/G★P
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My predictions for the next 4 years
http://www.sexncrime.net/index.php?p=18
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Crossfire
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My predictions: The future is going to look grim - let's hope there is still a planet earth in four years. |
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Crossfire
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G-Fellow
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Is this the Sex´n´Crime Online topic? Or is it about the politic in the USA ;D |
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Crossfire
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Quote: Is this the Sex´n´Crime Online topic? Or is it about the politic in the USA ;D
Well, since politics was discussed within Sex'n'Crime, I guess it's now a proper topic ;-) |
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The Arrogance
Registered: May 2004
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Crossfire, you might better take care of what you say about the US-government, just in case you don't plan to spend your next vacation with a bag over your head in a cage on Guantanamo Bay. ;) |
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Crossfire
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Yeah, I see what you mean....we cannot really state our opinions without asking the government for permission, that's the free world for you - BUT....for the next four years it seems we have to bite our tongues, hope there is a day after and atleast find comfort in the fact that Bush cannot run again IF there is a planet in four years ;-) |
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Antichrist/G★P
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This explains how so many Americans could have been dumb enough to vote for Bush again:
Evolution & American neanderthals
http://www.sexncrime.net/index.php?cat=5
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Duke
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I think it is a shame that you have absolutely nothing on Sex'n'Crime that is c64 related. I'd prefer politics be kept out of the scene. It would be silly to break up friendships over such a thing, and no doubt the politics of today hasn't been as toxic EVER. All the more reason to ignore it, debate it outside of the scene, and otherwise open up another can of beer. That is much easier to swallow than having to explain why I think you're so utterly wrong on every single issue ;)
Cheers! |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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Oliver: yeh, I'm quite politically motivated also and love a good debate. But I would recommend to step into the oldschool vein and have Sex'n'Crime online as C64 related only. I would be happy to donate some C64 articles and I'm sure you could gather them from certain people.
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Wanderer
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Debate? You want some debates? :)
I could probably whip up a frenzy of c64 debates for Sex N Crime lol.
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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Wanderer: I mean more in someone writes an article, then someone counters that article and so on. The scene in 2005 is dominated by the LEGAL section (demos, etc), so our discussions on the cracking times would be limited, except for historical rantings, which are always good (and needed for these uninitiated newbies ;))
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Duke
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Registered: Jun 2003
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I also love a good political debate, but I really just don't think the c64 scene is the place for it. It may sound strange coming from a former FairLighter who happily killed a commie for mommy (heh) but even so, I still think pushing ones propaganda in either direction through a c64 magazine goes against everything I believe the scene to be about. Reminds me of why I never liked Revealed quite frankly. Marxist drivel. Sex'n'Crime was a great magazine, yes, but it is absolutely NOTHING like the online version. That's like me bringing back The Pulse Online and making it about pottery. Would you visit? I thought not. |
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Crossfire
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The Pulse Online? Yes!
Pottery! NO!
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Booze
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Debbie: I'd never have voted for Bush either but he's turning out to be a good thing for the middle east (Libanon for instance, has benefitted greatly from Bush putting pressure on syria.) Of course, it's all just coincidental, Bush hasn't got a clue...
Just my 2 cents,
L8r ;-)
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