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2020-03-03 19:19
goto80

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 140
What C64-songs were sampled here?

I recently found an album from 1999: Attract Mode by COiN. It seems like the whole album was made by sampling C64-songs, editing them and adding other sounds on top.

That violates copyrights and so on, but the important question is: where did he sample it from? I have to admit that I can't name many sources after Arkanoid at the start. Can you?

The full album is on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D5RzaF8UT4

The challenge is on!
2020-03-03 19:29
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5127
16:00 turbo outrun one of the level music probably 1.
2020-03-03 19:30
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
The first jingle after Arkanoid is the part in "Knackdick" after 14 seconds of play, and then the longer part after 39 seconds of play.

http://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/J/JCH/Knackdick.sid
2020-03-03 19:42
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
At 6:51 it's this jingle from Hawkeye.

http://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/T/Tel_Jeroen/Hawke..
2020-03-03 19:45
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
At 6:56 it's this subtune in Scroll Machine by Yip.

http://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/Y/Yip/Scroll_Machi..
2020-03-03 19:51
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
At 11:08 it's this jingle from Bodyslam by Tim Follin.

http://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/F/Follin_Tim/Bodys..
2020-03-03 20:01
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
At 11:15 it's this subtune from Turbo Outrun.

http://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/T/Tel_Jeroen/Turbo..
2020-03-03 20:21
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
At 11:45 it's this subtune from Hotrod by Jeroen Tel.

http://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/T/Tel_Jeroen/Hotro..
2020-03-03 20:26
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
Tired. It's hard working finding this stuff and the album is crap. Maybe someone else will find the rest. =)
2020-03-03 21:12
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3075
Quote: Tired. It's hard working finding this stuff and the album is crap. Maybe someone else will find the rest. =)

;-)
2020-03-03 21:58
Seven

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202
At 14:41 it repeats this subtune from Clystron by Thomas Detert

http://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/Detert_Thomas/Cl..


At 18:30, another subtune from Clystron by Thomas Detert

http://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/Detert_Thomas/Cl..
2020-03-04 01:27
goto80

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 140
That's some pretty impressive work. Once again I salute you, JCH! :)
2020-03-04 07:39
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 299
At 4:50 /MUSICIANS/F/FCS/Shorty.sid
2020-03-04 08:26
Flotsam

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 85
WTF does this mean?

"Every synthetic beep, chirp, buzz, drone you hear on this album was ripped directly from videogame soundtracks composed between 1983-88. The original scores were painstakingly coded in Basic on a Commodore 64 home microcomputer. The raw data was converted by Coin into waveforms and assembled into new full length tracks using cut and paste techniques associated with modern software."

https://www.discogs.com/Coin-Attract-Mode/release/2208273
2020-03-04 09:18
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3239
it means he doesn't have a clue and writes bs
2020-03-04 09:55
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5127
they only got wrong the basic part, not so bad.
2020-03-04 10:01
Flotsam

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 85
"The raw data was converted by Coin into waveforms"

=

Mr. Coin pressed record button.
2020-03-04 10:53
scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1578
Here is his other album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71TdSq3IaPo

Lame, blatant ripping.
2020-03-04 19:03
Adam

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323
Quote: WTF does this mean?

"Every synthetic beep, chirp, buzz, drone you hear on this album was ripped directly from videogame soundtracks composed between 1983-88. The original scores were painstakingly coded in Basic on a Commodore 64 home microcomputer. The raw data was converted by Coin into waveforms and assembled into new full length tracks using cut and paste techniques associated with modern software."

https://www.discogs.com/Coin-Attract-Mode/release/2208273


BASIC? yeah, no. cut and paste techniques? what is this silliness? is this some kind of bad translation from german to english? this album is terrible.
2020-03-04 19:09
Adam

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323
Quote: Here is his other album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71TdSq3IaPo

Lame, blatant ripping.


oh good lord this album is worse. the text in the youtube description is all kinds of pretentious nonsense:

Quote:

"Coin is a neo-retro band comprised of German born uber-diva, Walter, and master percussionist, Thermos Malling. Their penchant for explosive lyricism, juxtaposed with 4-bit 1980's video game soundtracks brings a distinct and refreshing change of pace to the pap at the top of the charts. The incomparable sounds of Coin evoke feelings of excitement, defiance, passion and fury and are sure to leave listeners and audiences alike gratefully exhausted.

Architects of Character is an irreverent album filled with brilliant social commentaries on post-modernism. Coin spares no sacred cows. Front woman Walter, known for her high impact and animated shows, exudes such a force on the album that listeners can tangibly feel her presence.
The Wobbler (Track 15), challenges eating disorders as man is manifested as Pac Man. Battlefield (Track 9) mocks the age-old debate between Neo-Classism and Marxian theory. Daylighthorizon (Track 8) is a biting satire of nuclear non-proliferation.

Listeners are also treated to an homage to the great eighties band Journey. The band's cover of Journey's Loving, Touching, Squeezing hits a home run in a stylistically sound that can only be described as Coin."


yeah.. lame.
2020-03-04 19:35
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1661
Not even close to be my cup of tea either. I don't really see any reason to get more than 0.003% upset about it though. Can't blame someone (coin in this case) for listening to some C64 music, feeling inspiration, and starting to sample stuff and cutting things up and adding some singing and... so forth.

Have a beer and relax guys.
2020-03-04 20:10
Adam

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323
Quoting Frantic
feeling inspiration

I wonder if it's the same kind of inspiration Timbaland had those many years ago:
Quote:
I don't know him from a can of paint. I'm 15 years deep. That's how you attack a king? You attack moi? Come on, man. You got to come correct. You the laughing stock. People are like, 'You can't be serious'.

:D
2020-03-04 21:28
Flotsam

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 85
Quote: Not even close to be my cup of tea either. I don't really see any reason to get more than 0.003% upset about it though. Can't blame someone (coin in this case) for listening to some C64 music, feeling inspiration, and starting to sample stuff and cutting things up and adding some singing and... so forth.

Have a beer and relax guys.


I don't mind lending a little, but failing to mention the sources makes me at least 0.004 % upset, which effectively means that I'll point my finger and say "Bad boy.", which can be pretty scary for the wrongdoer. This goes for the C64 productions too, be a good guy/girl and mention the source if you lend.
2020-03-05 19:48
Romppainen
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 40
So this asshat converted waveforms into waveforms and ripped game soundtracks, composed for a 4-bit computer, from 1983-88 somehow including Clystron from 1993. Fuck please.
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