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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 5086 |
Bob Yannes doesnt give a shit
read this:
http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e9426444/yannes.html
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now lets read between the lines :
Are you aware of the existence of programs like SIDPLAY, PlaySID,... which emulate the SID chip up to the smallest click ?
I only recently became aware of them (through your website).
Did you believe this was possible to do with your chip?
Since I haven't heard them I'm not sure what we are talking about, however
So, he doesnt even gave a shit to listen to 1 or 2 tunes... sad. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 1879 |
Well, I for one will never ever greet him in my scrollers again! :mad: |
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Macbeth
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 11 |
That interview was done nearly 10 years ago, so I think it'd be much more accurate to say "Bob Yannes didn't give a shit 10 years ago". Who knows now? Maybe someone should track him down again. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 1879 |
Quote: That interview was done nearly 10 years ago, so I think it'd be much more accurate to say "Bob Yannes didn't give a shit 10 years ago". Who knows now? Maybe someone should track him down again.
Dude, the guy never even heard of some of the greatest sid composers, so chances are that in general he just isn't interested in how 'his' chip was used, be it on the c64 or in an emulator or something similair. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002 Posts: 1570 |
And I don't give a shit that Yannes gives a shit.
As long *WE* give a shit. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 1879 |
Quote: And I don't give a shit that Yannes gives a shit.
As long *WE* give a shit.
Anyway, there's always ways to make people give a shit .. medicine to take and what not .. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002 Posts: 1570 |
Quote: Anyway, there's always ways to make people give a shit .. medicine to take and what not ..
No shit! |
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Merman
Registered: Dec 2002 Posts: 140 |
Bearing in mind how complicated and amazing the SID could have been if Commodore had spent more on it, and bearing in mind how they messed up the 8580, I'm not surprised Bob (who had left Commodore by that time for Ensoniq) didn't have much to say on the subject... |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 1510 |
And I always thought they messed up the 6581... ;-) |
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madcrow Account closed
Registered: Oct 2003 Posts: 39 |
Given that this is 10 years old, I figure that things may have changed... Still, it seems that even at that time, he was quite proud of his creation...
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please have pity on the n00bish emu kiddie responsible for the post above. |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002 Posts: 1160 |
Quote: Bearing in mind how complicated and amazing the SID could have been if Commodore had spent more on it, and bearing in mind how they messed up the 8580, I'm not surprised Bob (who had left Commodore by that time for Ensoniq) didn't have much to say on the subject...
Hmm, I find hard to imagine how it could have been better :)
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004 Posts: 639 |
Does it in any way matter what attitude Bob Yannes has toward the SID? I fail to see the controversy here. |
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Merman
Registered: Dec 2002 Posts: 140 |
Quote: Hmm, I find hard to imagine how it could have been better :)
Well, if you read ON THE EDGE by Brian Bagnall, the original design included a multiplex oscillator that would have given SID up to 32 voices... |
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Ninja
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 411 |
Holy shit, 32 voices need a lot of rastertime... |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002 Posts: 1510 |
Nah, I consider music with more than three channels unnatural and evil anyway. ;) |
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Wisdom
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 90 |
I wished for one extra channel sometimes, but not more. :-) |
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Graham Account closed
Registered: Dec 2002 Posts: 990 |
Here's your extra channel: $D418 |
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Wisdom
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 90 |
Of course I did not mean a digi channel. :-) I was referring to a normal voice. |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002 Posts: 1160 |
Mmm, 32 unmodulated voices playing patriotic NTSC-scene music, maybe then there'd have been enough rastertime ;)
(though note fetch would still have to be cleverly split on successive frames, otherwise it could easily gulp half frame or more when each channel starts new note...) |
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Wisdom
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 90 |
Not that hard actually.
Just consider that VTR/Music Ass. player eats around 12-16 rasterlines per frame (and it fetches notes each frame, AFAIR), and for 32 channels, you would roughly need 130-170 rasterlines. Sure not much rastertime left for your next killer demo, but well... :-)
Same probably goes for John Player, but I don't know that one's workings.
And for JCH 20.g4, uhh, *that* would take lots of rastertime, if you use it as it is. :-) |
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SECRET MAN Account closed
Registered: Jun 2004 Posts: 336 |
Bob Yannes=Idiot |
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RRR Account closed
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 21 |
I have had many sleepless nights after reading this. Damned. ;-) |