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2006-09-17 17:54
Jon
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Where is the Crypt entry?

Did they vanish, self immolate, or were they maliciously deleted?

-Ninj
2006-09-17 18:06
chatGPZ

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last time i checked the entry (and all their releases) were locked by troublemaker - ask him :=P
2006-09-17 18:29
Richard

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Which Crypt entry was that?
2006-09-17 18:30
SECRET MAN
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Join-left-rejoin- ???? Crypt is an private group,now like a swinger club
2006-09-17 18:33
Richard

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I rejoined this morning. I'll have to ask Troublemaker what is going on in CSDB about the deletion of Crypt. Perhaps CSDB staff should restore the entries for Crypt!

I think the main reason for why the group Crypt had been deleted from CSDB was mainly because of the co-op releases we have been doing with Wanderer. I'll not explain why. Many examples are on Lemon64, and used to be on the CSDB forums.
2006-09-17 19:03
Jon
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Well, it'd be a pity if it is self immolation (member initiated deletion). After all, despite the recent newish releases, Crypt IS a legacy group... not some cheesy fake group (of which, recently, there have been many).

-Ninj
2006-09-17 19:10
Richard

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I just spoken to Troublemaker.

Crypt was not deleted by him. Either this entry been hacked by a lamer or deleted by CSDB staff
2006-09-17 19:38
Jon
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Well, I thought the entry was unlocked when I looked at it earlier (but I wasn't 100% sure of it so I didn't say anything).

Looks like you guys got smoked.

A shitty pity, that.

Well, here's to your speedy recovery.

-Ninj
2006-09-17 19:44
Richard

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What are those idiots playing at?

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/group/?id=4330
2006-09-17 19:59
SECRET MAN
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Danzig:Do you want,that i delete my AFL uploads? You will miss some credits........I will give you some minutes
2006-09-17 20:00
Jon
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Huh.

At least the creator of that new Crypt entry is very self aware and named himself appropriately.

-Ninj
2006-09-17 20:01
maestro

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i can understand why members get banned, i can understand why members who belong to a particular group get banned.....but surely the entries for crypt should have stayed!!!

as for if they've been hacked out then maybe theres a reason for that????

2006-09-17 20:02
Richard

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I've recreated Crypt here.

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/group/?id=4332
2006-09-17 20:03
The Ignorance

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We didn´t delete it. We only made the new one.
And delete what you want, Secret Man.
2006-09-17 20:04
Jon
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"WE"?

Explain "WE".

And while you do that, I guess I am going to have to lock every damned thing I created / uploaded here because of this nonsense.

Thanks tons.

-Ninj
2006-09-17 20:05
Zyron

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No need to recreate anything, Perff can restore whatever was deleted.
This place has turned into some fucking playground lately which is a real shame.
2006-09-17 20:06
The Ignorance

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If you look with eyes open you see:

I made the entry and Danzig locked it.
And ofcourse there is a backup.
2006-09-17 20:06
Richard

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I hope Perff can do this.

I wish I was a CSDB administrator. :(
2006-09-17 20:07
The Ignorance

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If you look with eyes open you see:

I made the entry and Danzig locked it.
And ofcourse there is a backup.
2006-09-17 20:09
The Overkiller
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Quote: No need to recreate anything, Perff can restore whatever was deleted.
This place has turned into some fucking playground lately which is a real shame.


Seems so....
2006-09-17 20:12
chatGPZ

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Quote:
I wish I was a CSDB administrator. :(


GOD please no! i'd rather see zyron, acidchild, cba (and a public list). *sigh*
2006-09-17 20:12
Jon
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Quote: If you look with eyes open you see:

I made the entry and Danzig locked it.
And ofcourse there is a backup.


And if you open your eyes, you can see how childish this has all become.

-Ninj
2006-09-17 20:16
Richard

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Quote: And if you open your eyes, you can see how childish this has all become.

-Ninj


Yes
2006-09-17 20:17
The Ignorance

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Ofcourse, big Ninjasbane. But nobody is hurt in difference to other things. And if you have to lock your 7 uploads on your profile it´s not that much work. Ok?
2006-09-17 20:18
Jon
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Quote: Ofcourse, big Ninjasbane. But nobody is hurt in difference to other things. And if you have to lock your 7 uploads on your profile it´s not that much work. Ok?

Quite the sociopath, aren't we?

Get help. Serious help. Involving perscriptions.

-Ninj
2006-09-17 20:27
Jon
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http://noname.c64.org/csdb/scener/?id=14832

Not all that funny, Secret.

-Ninj
2006-09-17 20:32
SECRET MAN
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Who is this?
2006-09-17 20:39
Jon
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Before this goes anywhere else, I would like to explain something. Perhaps others have this same point of view, thus it must be said.

I have entered over 500 entries on to the CSdB. Of course, this isn't much in comparison to some of the more active contributors (Zyron, for example) but it is work.

First I have to transfer the images, catalog them, check to see if they are here on the CSdB. THEN I have to read the scrolltexts, extracting names, dates, and group members. After I get that, I have to enter what I find here on to the CSdB. The process is redundant, time consuming and slow.

I was a low level scener in the grand scheme of things, so adding to the CSdB is my tribute to my (and probably most of ours) misspent youth.

When I see the CSdB assaulted in such a way, I take fault with it. There is NO REASON for you children to spill your silly vendetta onto the database that I can see.

Aren't you people supposed to be in your THIRTIES by now, for Christ's sake?

Grow up, everyone. Take it to Lemon or wherever else you nutburgers like to bash one another. Leave the CSdB alone.

-Ninj
2006-09-17 20:40
Richard

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I agree with you Ninjasbane.

Also Troublemaker told me that the first Crypt entry, which he made was unlocked, so some loser, maliciously deleted the entry. That was why group ID Crypt had gone.
2006-09-17 20:56
SECRET MAN
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Lame act.
2006-09-17 20:57
chatGPZ

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just have perff find out who it was and then slaughter him. or something.
2006-09-17 21:01
maestro

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once again it looks like the nOObs are spoiling things!!!

i could say grow up but i dont think that would work.

its a real shame that so many people put alot of work into this website to create a place for anyone to relive or even live the c64 scene for some petty minded fools to go and spoil it for everyone.

i personally hope we find out who did this and they be banned forever for being so lame
2006-09-17 21:04
SECRET MAN
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I would say,that this dude should make a donation for the CSDB !
2006-09-17 21:08
chatGPZ

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or alternativly clean my closet
2006-09-18 05:04
Oswald

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and the wdr soap opera continues, will it surpass dallas?
2006-09-18 07:05
Perff
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*sigh*... What is going on here??
Well. I found a total of 4 crypt entries deleted yesterday, assuming some of them are created moments before deletion. I've undeleted all of them, and will now ask you to remove those who do not belong here. Including the newly created one to take over for the old one which I've restored. (sorry, but wasted time entering all that again :/ )

I got some names on who deleted them, yes, but can someone try to explain in a few words what is going on in the first place before I take action?
2006-09-18 07:23
Zyron

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Group 683 is the old one, the others should be deleted.

Did any releases get deleted too?

And about what's going on here, I leave that up to the kids who use CSDb as a playground & their personal battle field to explain. Then I hope their lame asses will be banned from here until eternity so we can go back to focus on what this site is made for & continue to add serious releases & behave like grown-ups.
2006-09-18 07:31
Zyron

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Richard seems to have created <group id=4329> where the trivia states "Crypt was formed in 1988 by Johnnie Walker. 2006, this group is now owned by Troublemaker. And we deleted our last crypt entry due to massive downvoting and bad comments!"
The Wanderer way of handling critics & bad votes seems to have spread.
The entry is locked by StreeTuFF which might be the newly added & deleted one mentioned in this thread:
Handle id #14833 : Street Tuff/TRSi
2006-09-18 07:38
Perff
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I think I've cleaned up now. Only the original crypt entry remains.
Now, if the person who deleted this entry would care to explain why? (You know who you are)
And then to all you others. Why is it nessesary to created 4 new entries, most of them with crap info?
2006-09-18 08:24
Richard

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Thank you for restoring all, muchly appreciated :)

To avoid some loser deleting Crypt again, this entry will be maintained by myself and Troublemaker.
2006-09-18 08:43
Yodelking

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Ninjasbane, Maestro, Zyron: I agree 100% you. This has gone way too far. I understand not everyone here are best friends, but as we said before: Please use some other place for your "wars".
2006-09-18 10:12
Matt

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yeh I wonder who deleted the CRYPT entry!
come one, speak up!
2006-09-18 10:34
chatGPZ

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same for me :)
2006-09-18 11:31
Burglar

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obviously I grew up and had no part in all the shit described above.

but a simple reason would be that a lamer group like Crypt would've been banned from the scene back in the days there still was a cracking scene. nowadays that doesnt happen anymore, but I guess some ppl grew tired from all recracks and basic crap games they put out.
2006-09-18 12:52
Honesty

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This behavior suxx and to be honest crypt wasn´t lame at all time.
But some ppl´s weight the meaning of scene a bit to high.
It´s nice to see that ppl had the same hate on each other they hade decades ago.

2006-09-18 13:02
Zyron

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People can go around hating each other all they want, but don't mess around with CSDb information.
2006-09-18 14:09
maestro

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exactly zyron!!!!

people can do what they like outside of csdb!!

but they must leave csdb alone for people to enjoy!!!
2006-09-18 14:36
Burglar

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Quote: exactly zyron!!!!

people can do what they like outside of csdb!!

but they must leave csdb alone for people to enjoy!!!


exactly, and not add tons of basic, recracks and 'frozen' cracks.
2006-09-18 15:01
chatGPZ

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imho the quality of the releases doesnt matter, everything must be added. but everyone should be free to mention if a certain release is crap :)
2006-09-18 15:27
SECRET MAN
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Quote: I think I've cleaned up now. Only the original crypt entry remains.
Now, if the person who deleted this entry would care to explain why? (You know who you are)
And then to all you others. Why is it nessesary to created 4 new entries, most of them with crap info?


Danzig,Street Tuff and The Ignorance created several fake entries of Crypt and locked the entries.I think,that one of these users deleted crypt.Danzig wouldnt unlock the Crypt fake so i made an fake entry for Ignorance,Danzig and Street Tuff.I deleted the fake entries after they unlocked the fake entry of crypt.How old are these dudes?
A really lame act.


2006-09-18 15:41
chatGPZ

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Quote:
Danzig:Do you want,that i delete my AFL uploads? You will miss some credits........I will give you some minutes


Quote:
A really lame act.


o_O
2006-09-18 15:53
SECRET MAN
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Top 10 most active uploaders: (view all) User: # uploads

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1 Zyron 6518
2 Violator 3071
3 Tch 1918
4 cba 1885
5 TWR 1316
6 SECRET MAN 982
7 CenTraX 880
8 WDR 849
9 tlr 826
10 The Communist 746

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So Groepaz,what do you want ? I made enough entries and i have a lot of fun to swap and find old stuff,but its fucking lame of some dudes to attack old sceners which are productive in 2006.
Crypt was deleted.What would you say if someone would delete Hitmen ?



2006-09-18 15:55
chatGPZ

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i would PM perff and tell him to restore it? i know, it sounds like an absurd idea... o_O

this thread however shows it again why _every_ change to the database should be _publicly_ logged (much like most wikis do it). i'd still like to know who deleted the entry at first for that matter :)
2006-09-18 16:23
SECRET MAN
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Quote: exactly, and not add tons of basic, recracks and 'frozen' cracks.

Enno,you dont need to download the releases of Crypt.Noone would be angry about you.
But i want download the releases.Perhaps the cracks are not the best,but i was really suprised about the intros.I heard some great sounds and saw some good graphics.
Perhaps your cracks are better,but time is running and you are old and lazy.Would be nice to see some new SCS-TRC quality cracks,intros or demos.
2006-09-18 16:53
Burglar

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Quote: Enno,you dont need to download the releases of Crypt.Noone would be angry about you.
But i want download the releases.Perhaps the cracks are not the best,but i was really suprised about the intros.I heard some great sounds and saw some good graphics.
Perhaps your cracks are better,but time is running and you are old and lazy.Would be nice to see some new SCS-TRC quality cracks,intros or demos.


your pants are on fire, secret squirrel!
2006-09-18 16:57
chatGPZ

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Quote:
and saw some good graphics.


thank god i'm not a graphician, i had to take that as an insult o_O
2006-09-18 17:01
TWR
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Quote: Quote:
and saw some good graphics.


thank god i'm not a graphician, i had to take that as an insult o_O


Your god is dead.
2006-09-18 17:35
chatGPZ

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did he look at a crypt intro? o_O
2006-09-18 17:41
SECRET MAN
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Wanderers classic fix intro,graphic done by Ninjasbane

or some other nice intros like this

RFO Intro

or this one

Happy Nation
2006-09-18 19:08
Danzig

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Shyte, I was so busy freakin' around with that CRYPT entry yesterday that I havent seen this thread at all :/

Its sad that all you maggots play big mouth in here... I got subscribed to tons of newsletters lately, I got "punishment"-offers from trouble-fucker, I got spammed by Wanderer... My picture was taken from this page to fill a funny lamer-page and many other things...

And??? Do I cry? No, its fun... (Im a man, I can stand it.. and others cant!)

Scene was (yes, WAS) also about the fun of it... And I took myself some 15 minutes fun about the lamers from Crypt and all you pissheads can do is crying??? the crypt-entry was deleted, so we created a new one, played some fun on it and later on set Trouble-gaga-asshead and Richard Gaybliss as the maintainer of the silly entry... Okay, it then was deleted too fast so maybe all you idiots havent recognized that at all...

We are just pulling some strings without doing any serious harm, we are cool dudes and all you asswipes can do is to wine around... *LAME*

And a special note to Secret Man: Shut the fuck up... I dont care about you, I dont care about your words... Go and delete that shit, maybe you already understood that Im not a little gay like others that I need my work to be added here! Otherwise my list would be longer...
And 2nd but even more imporant: I must NOT lick any canadian c-class ass coz that pisshead hung around 20 years ago... But YOU are in need coz you seem to never have got anything done properly except of crawling asses...
And finally:NEVER dare to deadline me ever again...
2006-09-18 22:12
Mirage

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Weeee! I built a treehouse! come and play!

Or trash it... whatever... at and older age i'll stop building treehouses anyway
2006-09-18 22:16
Matt

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chill out mate. ur taking this way too serious.
u only wanted to have some fun you said. well you don't really sound like somebody who had great fun lately.

2006-09-19 00:48
A Life in Hell
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When I grow up, I want to be a member of crypt
2006-09-19 01:34
Style

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Danzig: You forgot "I must NOT lick any canadian c-class ass coz that pisshead hung around 20 years ago MISTIMING EVERY FUCKING RASTER BAR HE TOUCHED"

:D
2006-09-19 01:48
chatGPZ

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Quote: When I grow up, I want to be a member of crypt

after having read the last issue of your mag i pretty much doubt that you ever will. and i love it :o)
2006-09-19 17:02
Danzig

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@Matt: read it again :) what disappoints me is those people really taking weird actions against someone else and play the innocent bystander.. (the only innocent bystander I can remember is burglar whos cardridge was stolen years ago ;) ) thats what i mentioned, im NOT taking it too serious even if my email-account is AGAIN filled about with +500 e-mails for the 3rd day in a row... i simply dont care...

@Style: I wouldnt even CALL it a rasterbar...

@Mirage: So sit down now and paint a picture of that treehouse :) the format is of your choice ;) would prefer muifli
2006-09-19 17:12
SECRET MAN
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Danzig is a psychopath and needs help.URGENT. I will spend some money for an psychiatrist.
500 mails is not enough for you.Every gay Webside should have an picture of You.
Idiot
2006-09-19 17:47
Danzig

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secret man: you disqualify yourself by writing that bullshit... you want me to be pissed on because some jerk subscribed me to some mailinglist? how could I? maybe you still dont understand: me playing far above your and your pals league... and most of the other dudez around here do either...

you better read twice before you react on a posting.. this is NOT the first time I get this impression..

Its not me offering punishment to others and its not me pm-spamming others trying to convice them to remove a posting they did. everyone here is free to have his own opinion <= read that twice dumbfucker, your are TOO :)
2006-09-19 19:27
Richard

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Guys, guys, guys (or should I say gentlemen). Why don't you all sort it out by creating a demo or something than hit this board with silly childish playground rantings? We're at a grown age in our early 20's to early 40's. The scene's not meant to be a playground.

I an proud with Crypt. The past demos were cool, and it is nice to see an old group revived.

I prefer a creative scene :)
2006-09-19 19:38
Stainless Steel

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True, the shit seems to be getting a out of hand lately.

I understand things have gotten quite emotional amongst some people, but all this kindergarden shit with fake groups and shite talking is really way out of line.

I dont really expect the people to suddenly get real and stop this childish shit.

Its really a shame that phisically grown people insist on acting like spoiled little schoolkids, fighting on the schoolyard about whos got the bigger marbles.

2006-09-19 19:44
Oswald

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hahaha well its funny in a way

we have back the group wars of the golden ages \o/

but now the contenders are not kids, little teenagers, no they are all grown up, arguing on the ruins of their childhood :)

long live the scene =)
2006-09-19 21:16
Bizzmo
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At least our kids will be proud of us...
2006-09-19 21:24
CyberBrain
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It was Yoko Tv Inc. who deleted the crypt entry.
Yoko Tv Inc. has been temporarily kicked for terrorizing the database because of a personal dispute with crypt.

Sorry for stating the obvious, but just because you don't like a certain person, it's not an excuse for fucking up the database.
Many people have spend months/years building this database, so THEY are the ones you're showing disrespect when doing something like this!
At the same time you're showing total disrespect towards us!

Adding crap info to the database because you think it's funny, shows the same kind of disrespect.

Fight your wars somewhere else.

/Perff + CyberBrain
2006-09-19 23:03
The Overkiller
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Case closed (?)
2006-09-19 23:52
Jon
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Quote: Case closed (?)

Let's hope.

-Ninj
2006-09-20 00:08
chatGPZ

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Quote:
Why don't you all sort it out by creating a demo or something


i second that! where is my promised anti demo? :(
2006-09-20 01:30
Style

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write it yourself groepaz

GROEP IS TEH LAME/GROEPAZ
2006-09-20 02:06
chatGPZ

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considering who promised it to me....it might actually be the only option. but i'm so damn lazy. bah. lame. :(
2006-09-20 13:31
CreaMD

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Quote: It was Yoko Tv Inc. who deleted the crypt entry.
Yoko Tv Inc. has been temporarily kicked for terrorizing the database because of a personal dispute with crypt.

Sorry for stating the obvious, but just because you don't like a certain person, it's not an excuse for fucking up the database.
Many people have spend months/years building this database, so THEY are the ones you're showing disrespect when doing something like this!
At the same time you're showing total disrespect towards us!

Adding crap info to the database because you think it's funny, shows the same kind of disrespect.

Fight your wars somewhere else.

/Perff + CyberBrain


I second that!

/CreaMD
2006-09-20 16:35
Richard

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Quote: It was Yoko Tv Inc. who deleted the crypt entry.
Yoko Tv Inc. has been temporarily kicked for terrorizing the database because of a personal dispute with crypt.

Sorry for stating the obvious, but just because you don't like a certain person, it's not an excuse for fucking up the database.
Many people have spend months/years building this database, so THEY are the ones you're showing disrespect when doing something like this!
At the same time you're showing total disrespect towards us!

Adding crap info to the database because you think it's funny, shows the same kind of disrespect.

Fight your wars somewhere else.

/Perff + CyberBrain


I agree there.
2006-09-20 17:15
Oswald

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I agree too. Useless posts for the masses !
2006-09-20 18:03
jailbird

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I'll miss Yoko's *_*

:(
2006-09-20 18:29
The Overkiller
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Quote: I'll miss Yoko's *_*

:(


hahahahhaha !!!! Man, you said it :)
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