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Alias Medron
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 39 |
SID chip goes comercial (again)
Look at this :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_One_(Alicia_Keys_song)
quote :
The song has a sample of a synthesizer of the SID sound chip found on the 1980s computer, the Commodore 64.
hope she has a sid station.. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
sounds like wikipedia bs to me -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktUSIJEiOug ... where exactly can you hear SID? i cant, the synth stuff sounds like typical FM, not very much SID-like at all *shrug* |
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goto80
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 138 |
i guess we need to hire a SID-professor to get an analysis done, so we can convince the wikipedia editors (as that phrase was just removed). calling SID detektif crew! |
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chancer
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346 |
from my studio knowledge.. it looks / sounds like she is using a jupiter 8.. I've only ever seen one REAL one about hhm 12 years ago.. before their recent emulation..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktUSIJEiOug
2:28 or just after, I'm about 60% certain that's a j8, due to the coloured buttons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XxnPH5qahY
there is a tune I heard on the radio the other night while I was trying to find something that does sound like a SID sound. I'll have to try to remember what it is, does sound more "sid-ish"
thing is even things like the Juno 106 can sound similar to a SID, IF you program the patches right. It's tricky to say as I didn't hear any tell tell signs which make it very obvious.
although I know of 1 tune that does use c64 sounds BUT they are from RE-FX's quadrasid, I could tell a mile off. As the "sound" is the same but the notes aren't.
I'll have to try to figure out what that other song is in the meantime though.
After what happened with doughnut eating fool, they would be rather stupid to take tunes now.. As they think they may get outted as talentless losers. |
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Higgie
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 116 |
i got curious and took a closer look. now i'm 99.999% sure that it's a jupiter 8 in the video. :) which doesn't mean it was used on the recording of that tune. ;) |
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Also Nordlead 2X sounds a lot like SID sometimes |
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d0c
Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 186 |
alicia keys dont know shit about the c64 or the sid that i am 99.999% sure on. |
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goto80
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 138 |
i am not sure about that. it seems that alicia keyes was a c64-scener back in the days. rumours has it this is her: No Sync |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
lol? |
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The Shadow
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304 |
Actually there IS a point to all this. The Commodore 64 has been around for approximately 30 years. During this time, a gigantic amount of SID music has been created by many talented composers. The Commodore has remained very popular and SID music has been very popular as well. Whether or not the Alicia Keys song in question contains fragments of SID music is a question that can be only be verified by the SID CSI team. With all the millions of people out there that have enjoyed a 64 throughout the years, it is totally possible that a number of songs within the structure of popular entertainment have integrated within them SID music or have been influenced by SID music. Never underestimate the power of the Commodore 64. |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
Check the new 'Jeugd van tegenwoordig': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbhnJN8XPB4
Check more of his stuff: Bastian/Seymour Bits/Comtron/DJVT.
That producer uses the SID station for most of his work. |
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chancer
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346 |
I guess using a sid or an emulation of it (unknown 64 / quadra sid) etc is just different from the normal arp / moog / juno sounds is part of the reason.
I sample myself, but a snippet is one thing, taking someones whole tune is different.
There is a tune, done in reason which impressed me, it uses their subtractor synth. It's tweaked in realtime and it's not bad. I guess with the new arpegiotor in v4 you could do even more tricks. A lot of people on the forum there like the sid sound and have been messing around with things like thor in the new reason to try to get a sound a like.
if someone else besides me on here uses reason check this >
http://www.reasonstation.net/songs/upl/2006/
And look for a track called '1subtractorstereoversion.rps' (about 2 and a half pages down).
I was quite impressed by that and it's just using subtractor synth tweaked/automated in realtime
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Higgie
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 116 |
btw: 'the jupiter 8 part' of the alica keys song always reminds me a bit of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbzGGN7D3RI rather than the sound of the sid chip. |
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chancer
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346 |
higgie , the sound is probably an old synth but the one in the video might not be, as I just got CM mag this month, and I'm pretty sure it's the same keyboard, and it isn't a J8, but has the same coloured keys, so I'm guessing its another one by Roland. Although I'm not so bothered to trawl vintage synths to find out. |
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Danzig
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 440 |
Quote: i am not sure about that. it seems that alicia keyes was a c64-scener back in the days. rumours has it this is her: No Sync
so she was 10 years old when composing this??? *ROFL* |
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Quote: i am not sure about that. it seems that alicia keyes was a c64-scener back in the days. rumours has it this is her: No Sync
I have written her manager and film studio to find out if it's she. |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2924 |
No Sync is a guy. I found him, and his friend Deaks, and brought them into their first "real" scene group Suicide. Having talked with No Sync on the phone countless times, I can confirm he is in fact _not_ Alicia Keys. ;)
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
K Moloch, case solved :) |
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SIDWAVE
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Quote: No Sync is a guy. I found him, and his friend Deaks, and brought them into their first "real" scene group Suicide. Having talked with No Sync on the phone countless times, I can confirm he is in fact _not_ Alicia Keys. ;)
So fill in his real name on the profile ? |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
Quote: No Sync is a guy. I found him, and his friend Deaks, and brought them into their first "real" scene group Suicide. Having talked with No Sync on the phone countless times, I can confirm he is in fact _not_ Alicia Keys. ;)
O RLY ;)
Think Tempest was just making a joke, shame on those who fell for it :) |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2924 |
Quote: O RLY ;)
Think Tempest was just making a joke, shame on those who fell for it :)
Hence the reason I made the post, so nobody would be deceived. ;)
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
still no real name for No Sync ? Moloch!!!!! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
you do realise that noone should ever add real names without asking the person in question first? |
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A Life in Hell
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Registered: May 2002
Posts: 204 |
Quote: you do realise that noone should ever add real names without asking the person in question first?
But only people the cabal likes get to choose what to opt-out of the database, for the rest opf us your identity is owned by the sk3n3! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
nonsense |
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Quote: you do realise that noone should ever add real names without asking the person in question first?
Tons of names here are added to fill the forms as complete as possible. If someone objects they should remove their name themselves.
You have strange views what a release is, what should be uploaded, and now you also say real names are a nono.
Instead of playing your inner controlfreak out here, you should better get a job as tax officer or similar bureaucratic occupation.
I don't like bureaucracy, and information wants to be free!
EOS |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
Quote:
If someone objects they should remove their name themselves.
and how exactly would he know?
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You have strange views what a release is, what should be uploaded, and now you also say real names are a nono.
it isn't my view, it's the rules which all moderators and perff agreed on. (and the personal info rule was established before i became moderator if i recall correctly) if you don't agree with them, use another database. we do not support mindless datamining here. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Quote:I don't like bureaucracy, and information wants to be free!
Sorry, this sentence is bullshit. My personal information belongs to me and I decide on my own if I want it published or not. And hence personal information should only be added if the one adding it knows that the person whose info is to be added doesn't mind. When in doubt, ask.
Don't feed the google kraken more than necessary. |
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Quote: Quote:
If someone objects they should remove their name themselves.
and how exactly would he know?
Quote:
You have strange views what a release is, what should be uploaded, and now you also say real names are a nono.
it isn't my view, it's the rules which all moderators and perff agreed on. (and the personal info rule was established before i became moderator if i recall correctly) if you don't agree with them, use another database. we do not support mindless datamining here.
Look..
HVSC uses real names and (handle), where real name is known.
This has helped us to find people on the net, and verify tunes.
If you do not wish to use real name field, then delete it from the database; else people will use it! because it feels natural when adding info.
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Quote: Quote:I don't like bureaucracy, and information wants to be free!
Sorry, this sentence is bullshit. My personal information belongs to me and I decide on my own if I want it published or not. And hence personal information should only be added if the one adding it knows that the person whose info is to be added doesn't mind. When in doubt, ask.
Don't feed the google kraken more than necessary.
To think that you can control what information is gonna be entered in x places, by anyone, is an illusion.
This is 2008 |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
Quote:
HVSC uses real names and (handle), where real name is known.
and i'd still like to bitchslap whoever thought it was a bright idea to do so without my permission. its the single reason why its now plastered all over the web.
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To think that you can control what information is gonna be entered in x places, by anyone, is an illusion.
maybe. but atleast here, we won't support that attitude. |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
It was Shark that from start used real names in HVSC.
Your personal dir/sids only have Groepaz in them, I guess because you wanted it so.
We have left out some names by request, and others after a mail.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
Quote:
Your personal dir/sids only have Groepaz in them, I guess because you wanted it so.
yes, but i had to contact you guys AFTER i noticed google picked it up from various mirrors of hvsc. that mega sux. and thats why we don't want people to add realnames (and other personal data) here without asking the persons in question. |
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ready.
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 441 |
Just adding another CD surely made with SIDStation:
http://www.ambient.us/shop/product_info.php?products_id=55
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