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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Crackers cracking Minigame compo entries
Isn't it just lame eh? Cracking groups releasing C64 entries for the minigame compo. I think it is ever so lame. It appears that fake labels seem to be taking over the cracking scene nowadays. Mainly by Fortress and Lap Dancers.
I think those groups may have either been bored out of their skin, or just wanted to be popular.
I wont let lamer labels do firstreleases of my games because I get sick and tired of these. Take a look at http://www.redesign.sk/tnd64/note.html If they do, I'll make sure those first releases are -removed- from the ftps. |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
They do what they want to do.
Would you like "I won't let Richard release C64 games because I get sick and tired of these. If he does, I'll make sure they're deleted from c64.sk news, csdb and FTPs?" |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Erm no. I think I'll give this a rest! |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Hey, I was just mucking about. I have made some changes to the notice. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Still Richard, you don´t like people making fun of you but damn, you make it real easy for people to do so .. |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Jeez! Me and my big mouth! :-)) |
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Six
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 289 |
How exactly does one "crack" an unprotected minigame compo entry, ,anyway? Seems rather silly to me, but, to each their own. |
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Derision
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 69 |
Unprotected, freely redistributable mini-games. Hrmm... it's like they cracked themselves!
There's really nothing to crack on this machine these days... that market went teats up years ago. I guess that the remaining cracking groups have to take what they can get.
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
Yes there is, very small (where are the fullversion 100% releases of latest PTV games?) but there seems to be certain respect towards them, which is of course good.. |
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274 |
Quote: Unprotected, freely redistributable mini-games. Hrmm... it's like they cracked themselves!
There's really nothing to crack on this machine these days... that market went teats up years ago. I guess that the remaining cracking groups have to take what they can get.
this is not true, dont call such wankers "cracking" groups.
it is just a sign that they are not good enough to do decent stuff. If you do it under a fakelabel it is not meant for real, but there are still some spankers releasing stuff that has like 1 block and no sense.
please dont call tehm crackers. they are just shit
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iopop
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317 |
"Richard" : How come you take the time and add them to CDSB. I mean why waste time one something you think is lame? I mean why flame about things people really don't care about at all?
Ironically, I did just about them same thing now.... |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Ah, if they're not crackers - They're -Lamers- :)
I must be really confused between a cracker and a lamer. I used to think that lamers are those people who steal other people's codes, i.e. in demo parts and credit these as their own.
No matter how much those lamers be firstreleasing games, I will continue to show good support for the C64 and continue making games. Wait for my new minigame compo entry. It wont be anything too special. |
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Skywalk
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 8 |
FFS Richard. Shut the fuck up about fake labels. This subject is getting really boring!!
We crack or first release games, according to the quality of the work. If we find that the programs are good enough in quality, we crack 'em on Blazon label, if not then we release them in Lap Dancers.
I noticed you were moaning about your Missile Blasta game being released as Lap Dancers label. Well, we thought we change the credits in the title screen, for a bit of fun. If we offended you changing your name to "DICKHEAD GAYLISS" then, we apologise. In future, no credits will be changed. We'll leave the credits how they are.
Even if we are just intro linking warez, we score bonus points. |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Okay, okay, Sorry! |
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274 |
I always was thinking that blazon is a fake-label.
but maybe it is just me |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
Slator, it's not just you. |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Ahahahah, lol!
All the matter was fantastic, never laught so much, I'll release a turboload's crack with a 54K digiintro! :D |
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taper
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 119 |
How ironic... Richard Baylis, the man behind some of the lamest and most useless fakelabels now declares that fakelabels aren't allowed to release his games. Should I laugh or cry?
The whole Richard Baylis phenomena is one big fakelabel, and we all know it. There is no way someone could be such a retard in real life. I am sick and tired of this bad soap-opera. There is probably none who have ridiculed and destroyed more for the few serious cracking groups still left than this fakeperson. If he indeed should exist, this only makes the soap even more tragedy-comic.
Quote:"No matter how much those lamers be firstreleasing games, I will continue to show good support for the C64 and continue making games. Wait for my new minigame compo entry. It wont be anything too special."
It never is anything special comming from you. The kind of support you offer is something we could live without. Crawl back under the rock you came from!
By the way, read more about the newbee fakelabels in an upcomming article in the next VN. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Yes, some very cool text in 'The List' in the coming Vandalism #40.
Regarding protected games, they are still released. About games released by cracker groups - they generally state in their scroll text it is a 'release' or 'intro-link', if no protection removal was performed.
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Hmm. VN40 eh? I look forward to that. If I see any news regarding my silly antics in the past and present, I'll just take no notice :) It appears that I have been taking this scene thing too far and too serious, which is not really worth the effort. I shouldn't be put off by other people releasing my work on a fake label.
If I see another Urine, Fortress, Secret, Sealsex or Lap Dancers firstrelease of any new games I make, I'll just ignore it. Even if there are harsh comments about me.
I am 24 year old man, and I should not take these things too seriously and act like a big kid. Especially flaming at many sceners, because it just lands me into a whole lot of trouble. Plus I would lose friends.
Whoever does a first release of Washout on fake label. I won't take any notice. In fact, I think I'll keep off those FTPs and just get on with my own life and Commodore programming.
BTW: Russian Toilette was a fake game of mine :) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Okay TMR, you heard Taper: time to give it up. No more pretending you're "Richard Baylis". We never fell for it anyway ..
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
is it lame with games made by fake persons? |
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Skywalk
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 8 |
Quote: Hmm. VN40 eh? I look forward to that. If I see any news regarding my silly antics in the past and present, I'll just take no notice :) It appears that I have been taking this scene thing too far and too serious, which is not really worth the effort. I shouldn't be put off by other people releasing my work on a fake label.
If I see another Urine, Fortress, Secret, Sealsex or Lap Dancers firstrelease of any new games I make, I'll just ignore it. Even if there are harsh comments about me.
I am 24 year old man, and I should not take these things too seriously and act like a big kid. Especially flaming at many sceners, because it just lands me into a whole lot of trouble. Plus I would lose friends.
Whoever does a first release of Washout on fake label. I won't take any notice. In fact, I think I'll keep off those FTPs and just get on with my own life and Commodore programming.
BTW: Russian Toilette was a fake game of mine :)
Richard, it is good to hear that you mentioned that you have to stop acting like a fool. You would lose support from other people, if you carried on being a complete lamer.
For a start off, do as you said. Keep away from FTPs and carry on with your programming and music. Take note of what sceners would expect from you. A good attitude.
Quit spamming shit on forums and only add news of any games which have good quality on C64.sk news portal, else don't bother adding any news about your new game/release at all.
Oh and Richard, best of luck with your work.
@Slator, Blazon is a real quality label. We deal with quality first releases, which have been programmed in 100% assembly. Plus games that are not of good quality we either leave these alone, and leave them to other groups, or we release on Lap Dancers label instead.
We are also the new owners of 'Fortress'.
That's it =-) |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
We'll see how that goes.. I've seen this lame-activity/apology cycle quite many times so I'm somewhat sceptic. For as long as people react, yeah it's quite easy way to get attention with little valuable work needed.. |
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Skywalk
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 8 |
It sounds as if Richard has an Alter-Ego, just like in the movie 'Me, Myself and Irene' =-))
Lets wish and hope Richard calms down and stop those stupid lamer things.
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274 |
hm, don't get me wrong but richard doesn't seem to be the only one in here acting lame...
"where have all the crackers gone...."
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carlsson
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 41 |
I just wait for Ironstone Partners (or maybe Cronosoft or someone else trying to get some fresh commercial value into the C64 community) to have their first releases cracked within a few days after publishing, and then they get angry and make Tulip shut down _all_ unlicensed sites dealing with Commodore computers. Then you/we really have to go underground.
By the way, when I finally will release a C64-compatible MiniGame, it will have a built in trainer, so nobody does have to bother to add one. That's fair, isn't it? |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
But your game will be introlinked anyway for firstrelease points.. :)
Btw. notice, however, how crackers have presented surprising courtesy towards recent PTV releases. Though I have a gut feeling that same courtesy wouldn't extend to Ironstone ;) |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Quote: I just wait for Ironstone Partners (or maybe Cronosoft or someone else trying to get some fresh commercial value into the C64 community) to have their first releases cracked within a few days after publishing, and then they get angry and make Tulip shut down _all_ unlicensed sites dealing with Commodore computers. Then you/we really have to go underground.
By the way, when I finally will release a C64-compatible MiniGame, it will have a built in trainer, so nobody does have to bother to add one. That's fair, isn't it?
It is nice to see that there are still people supporting the retro-commercial market. I am hoping we will see some more quality C64 commercial releases in the future. Who knows, maybe I might buy them for my C64.
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Trazan
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620 |
Hahahah....Shit, people putting out crappy games
and dare to name them "Cracked?" Coolest shit for long really... |
