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2008-05-01 16:31
Akira

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FLT in the news

Did you guys catch this?

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/San_Diego_GOP_chairman_cofounded_..

Sorry if it was posted here already.
2008-05-01 17:00
The Overkiller
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No Obama! No Hillary! No McCaine! Vote Strider for US president!!!!
2008-05-01 17:05
d0c

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Quote:
A list of Commodore 64 games cracked by Strider is posted at a database of C-64 computer information.

This pirate site lists Strider’s accomplishments chronologically including all the games he cracked in his formative years.


so csdb is a pirate site now?....
2008-05-01 17:07
Shadow
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I wonder if we will get a lot of wannabe investigative reports digging through the site now looking for other people to "expose"...
2008-05-01 19:27
Sampaguita
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Quote:
so csdb is a pirate site now?...

Lovely, isn't it? Next all of us will get accused of terrorism by providing and distributing "secret manuals" using a cryptical underground language (assembler) or using dangerous software ("Little Koala-Shower" e.g.). Within the next 3-5 days the csdb will get added to the axis of evil.

The though itself is so funny, that I can hardly restrain laughter. ;)
2008-05-01 20:57
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787
Quote: Quote:
A list of Commodore 64 games cracked by Strider is posted at a database of C-64 computer information.

This pirate site lists Strider’s accomplishments chronologically including all the games he cracked in his formative years.


so csdb is a pirate site now?....


I think that comment refers to the link to *.emucamp further down in that paragraph which has "that word" in the url.

There's a follow up here btw:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2008/San_Diego_GOP_chairman_Part_2..
2008-05-02 00:19
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Holy shit, this stinks.

I cant even begin to describe how fucked up this is.
Reading those articles made me want to puke. They are literally digging up shit and blowing it totally out of proportion.

Citing the Fairlight slogan like he's some gunslinging nut roaming the streets, shootin' them commies.

If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny. Strider the mafiaboss, hilarious.


2008-05-02 02:51
Death Demon
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No, it's pretty funny. I'm in California and used to talk to Tony all the time. I do worry for him though. We've had a few corrupt Republicans in the last few years and I don't think they're going to let this go. I wouldn't be surprised if warrants get issued and they start digging up his network traffic from his ISP too. It's probably going to be rough going for him over the next few months. But it is funny to read a piece like that in the paper.
2008-05-02 03:21
Death Demon
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LOL, they even dug up that pic of Tony in Vegas with that stripper:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/San_Diego_GOP_chairman_Part_2_043..

I remember that picture! Hahaha. Wow. Poor Tony. And a reminder that the past can catch up with you.
2008-05-02 04:29
Six

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 289
"Hoist by his own petard", is it?

For those of you unfamiliar with US Politics, the Republicans are the "law and order/Christian morality" weirdos. What was he doing cozying up to THAT lot?
2008-05-02 05:09
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
Sure the article is a lot of crap, especially the stuff about terrorism ties, but appointing one of the worlds most notorious pirates as the head of the budget committee is pretty damn stupid :)
2008-05-02 05:13
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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and people keep asking why we dont want all the personal info here .. o_0

(and hell yes, technically csdb IS a pirate site. not that anyone gives a damn)
2008-05-02 06:32
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Is this related to www.fairlight.org not being reachable? :)
2008-05-02 06:33
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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probably got slashdotted :) or sth :)
2008-05-02 08:14
El Topo

Registered: Jun 2006
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Quote: "Hoist by his own petard", is it?

For those of you unfamiliar with US Politics, the Republicans are the "law and order/Christian morality" weirdos. What was he doing cozying up to THAT lot?


Ronald Reagan-fetishism since early youth probably had something to do with it...
2008-05-02 10:42
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Crap for Tony, hopefully the media doesn't keep on it as they are a potent bunch :(

2008-05-02 11:56
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048
One hell of a fucked up hypocrit country. ;(

and yes.. what GPZ says.
2008-05-02 13:27
Akira

Registered: Oct 2003
Posts: 52
Certainly fucked up stuff, eh?
Specially the part with the pic with the porn star.

So, I take it that republicans have never done anything in their lives that will go against their morality shit.

I bet they are all full of shit. They are probably prevs in disguise, similar to that guy in Austria probably. These people are the worse.

United States is a weird place.

Kill a commie for mommy ?
xD
2008-05-02 13:30
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
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that's typical for the us. politicians have whole crews that just dig up their opponents past and if they can find a tiny little thing which makes you look bad for the crowd they WILL dig it up.
that's just so pathetic what a fucked up mentality. u wouldn't get away with an attitude like that over here. take obame for an example. hilary sends out few of her men and all of the sudden there's a photo of obama posing with some american muslims. eh? so what the fuck? but it will influence a lot of voters you bet ya.
stupid.
2008-05-02 13:37
The Overkiller
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Quote: Certainly fucked up stuff, eh?
Specially the part with the pic with the porn star.

So, I take it that republicans have never done anything in their lives that will go against their morality shit.

I bet they are all full of shit. They are probably prevs in disguise, similar to that guy in Austria probably. These people are the worse.

United States is a weird place.

Kill a commie for mommy ?
xD


Strider committed terrible acts... hug a porn star, crack c64 games ... which is the next ... go to an heavy metal concert? Meh!!!!
2008-05-02 16:15
Yodelking

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 189
Quote: Strider committed terrible acts... hug a porn star, crack c64 games ... which is the next ... go to an heavy metal concert? Meh!!!!

Actually he did things that are a lot worse! In 1989 he didn't pay the entrance fee at Defiers copy party... now THAT was nasty!
2008-05-02 16:55
Deev

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206
The thing I find strange is how someone so into capitalism ended up the founder of a group internationally know for taking someone's commercial product, removing the protection and distributing it freely. The two things really don't add up to me.
2008-05-02 17:03
saehn
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Quote: The thing I find strange is how someone so into capitalism ended up the founder of a group internationally know for taking someone's commercial product, removing the protection and distributing it freely. The two things really don't add up to me.

I find that people who say that they're "into capitalism" are mostly just "into money". So that at least is compatible with selling infringing software. ;-)

And to address an earlier post, he's not exactly some poor innocent victim whose misdeeds are being over-exaggerated. He's representative of the public, and as such his past (character-defining) actions will be held to a high standard. It might be different had he come clean about his past and had made reparations. And the fact that this is coming from the U.S. Republicans (who often preach public morality whilst living their private lives in amorality).
2008-05-02 17:08
The Overkiller
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Quote: Actually he did things that are a lot worse! In 1989 he didn't pay the entrance fee at Defiers copy party... now THAT was nasty!

This is a news!!! If the Democratics will read this prolly they'll prepare a special reportage on the CNN :)
2008-05-02 18:38
El Topo

Registered: Jun 2006
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I can't help but feel it's damn funny he fled bloodsucking Sweden to end up in this Reaganomics aftermath though :D
2008-05-03 02:27
Graham
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El Topo is on german TV right now :D
2008-05-03 07:16
CreaMD

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Quote: I can't help but feel it's damn funny he fled bloodsucking Sweden to end up in this Reaganomics aftermath though :D

Blame his parents ;-).
2008-05-03 08:35
Morpheus

Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 152
Strider must have seen this coming. What else to expect when getting involved with politricks?
2008-05-03 11:46
d0c

Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 186
at least the commodore64 get mentioned in the story, thats a good thing...
2008-05-03 11:53
dalezy

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 476
Quote: at least the commodore64 get mentioned in the story, thats a good thing...

i loved how some people claimed the prikopril-case being good promotion for the c64 as well. sarcasm has never been that exciting before.
2008-05-03 11:54
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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it wasnt? =P
2008-05-03 20:42
OEP

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 60
Makes me embarrased (almost) to be an American. There are worse things in life than being the founder of a legendary c64 cracking group. Thought it was funny how they take things we did as teenagers and blow it out of proportion.

Hope it blows over for Tony.
2008-05-04 03:35
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085
the point is that the whole thing is exaggerated a shit load. afaik strider has only been active in the c64 scene, pre 1990 even. that they slander him with stuff past his time is crazy enough.

on the other hand, I think this is the wrong place to discuss anything personal. this stuff is public.
2008-05-04 08:53
Mace

Registered: May 2002
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Remember, anything we write here can also be read by RAWSTORY.COM.
2008-05-04 09:07
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Remember, anything we write here can also be read by RAWSTORY.COM.

and people wonder why i vote for making large parts of the site non public ...
2008-05-04 09:23
enthusi

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and I vote for starting a thread to diss s trider as someone who never did anything of importance concerning cracking and make all other info/threads non-public.
Im serious about this.

After all "our" data were abused to put someone in trouble (rightful or not). We could show that we are still able to act as "one".
2008-05-04 09:26
chatGPZ

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strider? who's that? =P
2008-05-04 22:32
fade
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Quote: strider? who's that? =P

strider was a pretty good arcade game.. "you dare fight me!!"

This is just another witch hunt, like bush knowing about 9/11, the reichstag fire, reptilian aliens controlling the world from an underground lair and the world being round.

i'd laugh if it was a pissed off democrat scener trying to get revenge for something that happened 20 years ago :)
2008-05-05 06:34
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 727
This is Nothern America in a nut shell. I'm not surpriced.
2008-05-06 06:07
ΛΛdZ

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Part 2 is here:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/San_Diego_GOP_chairman_Part_2_043..

(argg!... it was already posted here... sorry)
2008-05-06 14:15
Rough
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If you google for his name you find several other articles about this guy

e.g. Heise http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Republikaner-Chef-von-San-Diego-..

And James Hartline's blog brings a lot about his hypocrisy: http://jameshartlinereport.blogspot.com/
2008-05-06 16:17
Stan
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After the Strider issue, I would support any initiative to make this database more private. Obviously, people abuse some of the information available here.
2008-05-06 18:52
Higgie

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Posts: 116
I must second that! Make this place more private!
2008-05-06 23:26
fade
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Quote: I must second that! Make this place more private!

make this place show more privates? :)

more sceners with boobies please :)
2008-05-07 10:51
Quetzal

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 71
Seems like making the CSDB more private would only slightly slow down any determined person, after all if they wanted the info, they'd just sign up and access it. If it's made more private than that, it would become useless for legitimate users.

@Fade - You're right, more sceners with boobies would make all the difference. And one other thing, try to remember not mentioning Chrome's secret underground lair too much, OK?
2008-05-07 11:25
Graham
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Only allow the account connected to a scener entry to add real name, adress etc. Problem solved.
2008-05-07 20:09
Hein

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He should have thought of it before entering the snakepit of politics. I can't imagine he was so blinded by the powers offered that he forgot about Google.
2008-05-07 20:23
Dane
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Awesome stuff. Unfortunately this also means HCL can never complete his destiny and become the king of Sweden, since Svenska Dagbladet would soon dig up all the dirt we buried on CSDB.
2008-05-15 14:54
chancer

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346
Hein, it's a bit like the guy in the UK known as "the canoe man" apparently he vanished in a canoe accident..

but someone did a google image search on their name, and found out they were very alive and his wife had cashed in the life insurance on him.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7133059.stm


2008-05-15 15:41
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493
The Google-part maybe..
Strider was a noble pirate! No such thing as life-insurance-cashing on his mind. You see, he was a bit of a digital Robin Hood.
2008-05-15 16:15
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
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Robin Hood!! W00t, did you say Communist!? A communist in the Caliphornian politix!! Worse than i thought :P.
2008-05-15 18:26
Archmage

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HCL has my vote any day of the week. Long live the King of Sweden!
2008-05-15 21:26
fade
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strider and arnie = the new iron shiek and nikolai volkoff? :)
2008-05-15 22:37
trident

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Quote: strider and arnie = the new iron shiek and nikolai volkoff? :)

Speaking of which, I found something on the Internet that suggests that Arnie himself was a barbarian in the 80s. Sounds worse than a pirate to me.
2008-05-16 06:59
HCL

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Thnx for your vote Archmage, but there is no election for the King in SWE. I think the way to go is still to kill him, claim the trone, and get sworn by teh howly bishop or smthn. Rather old-school :).
2008-05-16 07:37
Dane
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Quote: Thnx for your vote Archmage, but there is no election for the King in SWE. I think the way to go is still to kill him, claim the trone, and get sworn by teh howly bishop or smthn. Rather old-school :).

Challenge him to a one-on-one demo compo. Winner takes all.
2008-05-16 10:25
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Why not a game of Tour de France in pure LCP spirit.
2008-05-16 16:15
Trash

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Quote: Thnx for your vote Archmage, but there is no election for the King in SWE. I think the way to go is still to kill him, claim the trone, and get sworn by teh howly bishop or smthn. Rather old-school :).

There is one more way, marry the princess and kill of the father, then you are the king by definition.
2008-05-21 09:50
DeeKay

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Wow, Triad (aka "Raw Story") has really taken the old ragwar thing to a new dimension.... 8)))

And yes, HCL should definately be King of Sweden. He could provide swedish groupies for everyone on X (perish the thought! 8) and make sure 6510 ASM is taught in swedish schools! :-)

Imagine that one day someone actually discovers on CSDb that HCL did sideborder-coding and made Demos with asian chicks, Erkan & Stefan and guys with beer mugs! /o\ Oh, how teh world would shiver in horror and disgust!...

No vote on the "less public CSDb" idea, cause it's stupid, since reporters have no problem at all registering anywhere for a story. Certain personal info (and pictures) should only be add-able by the person in question though....
2008-05-21 11:07
DeeKay

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Oh, and just for the record: I find this highly amusing! 8) Come on, Strider had it coming, back when we heard he was active in the republican party we were ALL like "wtf??? Strider???"
You just can't be the gung-ho harcore cracker and partyman and then turn around and play the caretaker of morality and conservative values, thinking nobody will notice!
Kudos for him saying he doesn't regret anything though! ;-) I think his days in the GOP are numbered, and personally I think that's better for him in the end! 8) You don't really wanna get involved with all those criminals, do you, Strider? ;-D
2008-05-21 22:35
fade
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..in a way you could say he is far better suited to be the judge of morality, he has experience in the wrong things, so now he can better adjudicate the line between right and wrong :)

Go Strider Go !!!! Join The Bohemian Grove as quick as possible! :)
2008-06-04 19:14
EwenG
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Hell, this is nonsense. So the guy did like many of us in that time. It's just character assassination - GO STRIDER !
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