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Hydrogen
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 23 |
Brokepoint 2009
http://breakpoint.untergrund.net/index.php
Really sad news. Must do something. |
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Ninja
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 411 |
We will do something. It will happen. It will be _our_ party! \o/ |
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The Human Code Machine
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 112 |
As Ninja said, we will make it happen ;) |
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HCL
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 727 |
Hmm.. is that progess bar really k or somthing else? I dunno but ~50k for arranging a party seems totally f**kedup to me. They should take a look at parties like BFP or St:Lars imo.
more ca$h != more phun.
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Well seems that BP has many luxury things...
If it just has:
sleeping area
power
screen
sound
food/drinks shop
compos
Then its a party.
No prob.. go to some swedish parties to experience how
a party with 10 euro ticket price is run! :-)
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Shadow
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 355 |
Though I think BFP would have had some organizational issues if 500 persons had decided to appear... ;)
Once you get up in scale to these multi-hundred attendants-parties, the infrastructure needed to run it probably runs a lot more expensive.
Still 59.000 euros does sound like a lot, I agree. |
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Hydrogen
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 23 |
I think Breakpoint is different than other parties.
Breakpoint is the biggest scene-only event. Even though it is a scene party, so much non-scener ppl knows Bp. Also it supports all of the main platforms such as C64, Amiga and Pc. It is like a demoscene advertisement,it impresses so much new talent.
So I think Bp always must remain as a big event. |
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Skate
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494 |
We must support this party. I don't think any other party would cover Breakpoint. I'm planning to visit BP this year but even if I can't, I'll make a donation.
Btw, 59k looks too much I know but if you look a little bit closer, 10k alone has been reserved for compo prizes. This is how BP organizers would like to do this event. They already showed us 20k is enough just for a simple organization. They don't want to loose the quality. They want us to be the main sponsors which is fine with me. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
Quote:I dunno but ~50k€ for arranging a party seems totally f**kedup to me. They should take a look at parties like BFP or St:Lars imo.
comparing such a small event with a huge 3 (almost 4) day event visited by roughly 800 people.... oh well. i dont know :) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Quote: Well seems that BP has many luxury things...
If it just has:
sleeping area
power
screen
sound
food/drinks shop
compos
Then its a party.
No prob.. go to some swedish parties to experience how
a party with 10 euro ticket price is run! :-)
mmm no sleeping area at BP :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
people who need "sleeping area" are sissies. real men sleep under the table, in a pool of beer :) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Quote: people who need "sleeping area" are sissies. real men sleep under the table, in a pool of beer :)
that qualifies all ppl at X as a sissy :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
atleast those who cant go to another party because there is no bed, yes indeed =P |
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Dano
Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 231 |
actually i don't know why they can't go for any other sponsors like breweries and such. still i hope they don't raise the entry fee as i already think it's pretty high. judging by how the empore looked on the second day some money should be spent on cleaning the area rather than any other expensive stuff.. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
hehe we have paid helpers who clean up the place afterwards (we cant take another week for cleaning up =P). thats not very expensive though compared to other stuff which we cant do without, unfortunately.
(and as for other sponsors... try find some =P) |
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FATFrost
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 211 |
why don't they just build a 'scene commune' and get all sceners to live there like tha hippies! i can be the chef!!! |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Quote: atleast those who cant go to another party because there is no bed, yes indeed =P
and according to you those who havent slept under a table at x. |
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yago
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333 |
2000 euro for pre-recording videos?
2000 euro for party-decoration?
and the argument "bp is biggest, we need to support it"... there was mekka&symposium before, if breakpoint breaks, there will be a bigger, cheaper, betterer and fresher party i bet.
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Hydrogen
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 23 |
Himm. I am not sure. For example "The Party" ;) |
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Yazoo
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227 |
...preferably in northern germany :)
btw... ok - the oxyron party was just a party for 140 ppl, but we needed a total of 5000 for everything. |
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Dano
Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 231 |
actually i'm doing pa/light/video rental myself, so i pretty much ask myself why there's 2000 for that second stage.. for that money we'd pretty much set up a discostage for about 2000ppl and not just some small pa and some par56 lights hanging from that minitent.. or did i miss something?
bp IS a big party, yet i'm not quite sure if it's not all too much money calculated there..
talking about sponsors.. even we have some small (local) sponsors who have some slides going on on our parties, so i pretty much doubt it may be THAT much of a problem to find some more sponsors.. i mean everybody's talking about booze, so why not get some vodka/bear/etc brand? or some other big hardware manufacturer like dell/asus and such? maybe even bahlsen oder curry king just to name a few.. i mean if you're facing all that matter 24/3 you might be getting some at the local food supply....
actully after just some 5 days everything really important is beeing payed already, so what the fuck? actually some money should be spent on the streaming rather on seminars that only few are attending..
'nuff said.. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
dano: its not that easy... there is a beamer on the second "stage", pa etc ofcourse, relativly expensive equipment for the video (repeaters etc). insurance is another notable thing... you are right, pa and decks are NOT the problem :)
and oh well, the numbers there are ofcourse rough estimates only, and a lot of small things are merged with the bigger stuff. eg the 2k for decoration includes lots of stuff that wasnt actually used for decoration (we spent quite a bunch on gaffa tape alone =P) ... the "network" budget also includes stuff like the power-outlets on the tables (and everything connected to it) etc etc. dont take those numbers too serious :)
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
I have to say that this is starting to look like the end of The Party, the way it ended.
Not too big, but the way its done.
Back to basics people:
sleep area
possiblity to get food/drink
power
screen
sound
You dont need any more, to make it what it SHOULD be,
a SOCIAL EVENT.
All the rest is pop shit and costs all the money.
It dont make any difference if its just like the X, the amount of people does not matter!
If just people have power and there is a toilet, and some compos, the SOCIAL part of it, will make sure its a good party.
And the more people attend, the easier to pay the rent for the place.
So my advice: cut all the luxury!
You can get the luxury back, when this shitty worldwide financial crisis is over.
And somewhere i read BP does NOT ever have had sleeping area ?
You dont dare to call this the largest most best organized party with most things, and then not have sleeping area.
This is the same fucking mistake as The Party 1995 having rave techno party in the sleeping area!
Learn from the past, or die! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
sissie. the rave party ruled! =P |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Hey Groepaz!
Besides Sphinx/DG I am now the oldest scener, and the oldest ACTIVE scener, i am goddam 40! :)
And you are all getting old, and have bad knees, and backs, and beer bellies and so on, we are getting fucking old my man!
So we fucking need a bed like on X!!!! :-)
I am not a sisies, and not many are, but I want to do this also when i am 88, and then we fucking need a bed! :) |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
To get back to topic:
BP has to cut the costs, and carry on the party, with the basic things only, then it can survice the crisis.
And i already told what to cut.
So just do it. |
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Seven
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202 |
Thanks for telling them what to cut, you saved Breakpoint! |
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FATFrost
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 211 |
@Rambonez... you could combine breakpoint with a camping convention and food and drink and disco/av convention to get free shiznitz!!
and pr0n convention too...( for free man milking while watching demos from Crest/Booze/FLT/Xenon/Plush.......)
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
HULK SMASH!! |
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Hydrogen
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 23 |
Website updated.
http://breakpoint.untergrund.net/index.php
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