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2016-09-01 10:44
Dr.j

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 277
Commodore is back in Germany

well sort of...well i guess the company "Comp GmbH " got the licence to use the brand name of Commodore , and through the licence they are about to release new C64C cases and a lot of more. guess the same computer but only a new case ? or ?!


https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/33/items/commodore-back-in-germa..
 
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2016-09-01 22:10
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11357
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2016-09-02 06:55
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235
TBH The Commodore brand means nothing anymore these days. It has been screwed over by so many people in the past, and even now, it's nothing exclusive, from the looks of it. It's a nice touch, but it doesn't add anything of significance. YMHO.
2016-09-02 13:27
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
I think you're wrong. When assclowns put the brand on Web.ITs and phones and whatnot, sure, it only served to dilute it. But all the brand got them was a few press releases, then they flopped and were quickly forgotten by pretty much everyone. Producing actual, genuine C64s with the logo on it is a different thing. Don't get me wrong, it's still very much a niche product, but I think Jens has a shot at selling to a wider audience than the usual hardcore C64 fans. I hope he gets all the production bottle necks sorted out so we don't get another Reloaded situation... In any case it's great news for us here.

As I'm thinking about it, now would be a very good time to produce a converter box that takes IEC, S-Video and joystick cables in one end, and HDMI, SD-cards, and USB controllers in the other - everything you need to connect a C64 to a modern setup. I wonder if you could make that for < €100...
2016-09-02 13:49
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11357
hardly, the HDMI license alone would be expensive^3
2016-09-02 15:22
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
Yeah, $10k/year or $5k/year + $1 per unit. You can always put a DVI connector on the device to avoid the fee, and have vendors ship an HDMI adapter with it.
2016-09-02 15:39
ruk

Registered: Jan 2012
Posts: 43
Quoting MagerValp
Yeah, $10k/year or $5k/year + $1 per unit. You can always put a DVI connector on the device to avoid the fee, and have vendors ship an HDMI adapter with it.


Or Displayport over USB-C :)
2016-09-02 20:46
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235
Don't get me wrong, I think it's good that Jens got the license to use the brand name officially. I treasure my Reloaded. I'm just putting some questions marks, and don't think the wider audience is interested in the brand name.
One question would be, what IS the Commodore brand? Apple produced Apples in the past, PCs, like the Apple II. Nowadays they produce hardware that has nothing of the original hardware. People don't care, they don't even know the Apple II. And that's okay.
Now, a Commodore computer, 8-bit, or 16-bit like the Amiga, who would want to own one of those, even if you can hook it up to your HDTV, have it on WIFI and load stuff from a 2 TB HD? I'm talking about the mainstream here, not us geeks.
64KRAM is not going to cut it for the mainstream that wishes to play Pokemon GO! on their Androids, or iPhones.
As for consoles, no authentic C64 or Amiga, upgraded to the modern age, is going to be instabuy for the mainstream, right?
2016-09-02 23:22
mhindsbo

Registered: Dec 2014
Posts: 51
For us geeks I can only say YES! Rebirthing a modern mainstream brand is one thing - catering to a niche retro market is something else and for the latter this is a good thing I believe.
2016-09-03 02:17
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
For the general public, no, this is not something I expect people to be interested in. But there's a fairly large group of nostalgic people in their 30s and 40s that remember the C64, outside of the core of sceners and retro enthusiasts. Being able to use the Commodore brand makes it much easier to break through and reach people outside the bubble.
2016-09-03 08:12
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
Mouse, you are right, but nostalgy beats rationalism. Esp if official c= name is on a product that helps you relive the past. c64 reloaded, chameleon or whatever.
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