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robthecat
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Registered: Jan 2005
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New Graphic Hardware for C64
New Graphic Hardware
Is there a interest for a new GFX Bord aka VIC 2005 ???
I allways think the C64 need an new Gfx Mode with more
Colors, Sprites and Resolutions.
if you Agree,
Drop me a line,
Thanx
Rob D. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
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how about a vic II+sid with 3Ghz+512 ram ? :) |
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Graham
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erm no :) i was more thinking about 1982 when the c64 was finished. if they took another cpu then... |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3051 |
Quote: i totally second that.
"Quote: I can see dual sid cards, because hey, the sid is arguably the soul of the c64. You know, it's still uniquely c64.
I can see how a supercpu equipped c64 is cool - you can run your existing crunchers at a faster speed, it's still c64 software. But yet, the 16 bit mode of it, that just seems wrong. I dunno, tho, I'm aware people have done amazing things with it. And it's not like it's just a 68k or an arm or something, i guess.
You see, the thing is, I already have two pc's, and one of them, I picked up on the side of the road. I also have an amiga. And they have all of this neat graphics hardware already. This whole exercise of turning a c64 into an amiga or a pc, what's the point?"
Me too. |
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Nightlord
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i think it is a nice hardware project. it probably will be a very fun way of practicing with FPGA stuff. but i do not think it will be of much use to the scene.
if anybody out there is interested in a hardware project idea useful to everyone, i suggest a 1541 replacement: an adapter to a PC floppy or better a usb disk. the critical feature is that it should hace the exact 6502 and the CIAs behaviour so it supports all the fast loaders used in most demos. our 1541s are dying of mechanical or electronic failures one by one and we will run out of them a lot sooner than the c64s.
if nobody does this by then, i will try someday :)
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Stingray
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I have been working on a video board for the 64 for a while now. I already have a simple PAL cct which I'm now interfacing to the 64 (The PAL cct I've designed is interfaced to an 8051 at the moment), The idea is that the 64 will still use the Vic II and only switch to the video board when software tells it to and will still use the same PAL output. Once I've interfaced the cct I wll start working on improving it. The reslolution will remain at 320x200 (improvments will be other things mainly to do with simple 3D graphics). At the moment I'm working on getting the 6510 to write to static ram (Any one here done it before?). Any way I'm only working on this while I have spare time which isn't often at the moment. There is a thread on this in coding forum.
Not everyone will like it, but I will and it means that I can have a real 64 with improved graphics and not have to by a C-one. |
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LordNikon
Registered: Dec 2001
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A 256 colormode (8bit color are enough ;) ) and a little 3d Speedup would be cool. |
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Stingray
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agreed! By the way here's the link to the thread on the graphics board FASTER 3D GRAPHICS
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notalentcoder
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Quote: i think it is a nice hardware project. it probably will be a very fun way of practicing with FPGA stuff. but i do not think it will be of much use to the scene.
if anybody out there is interested in a hardware project idea useful to everyone, i suggest a 1541 replacement: an adapter to a PC floppy or better a usb disk. the critical feature is that it should hace the exact 6502 and the CIAs behaviour so it supports all the fast loaders used in most demos. our 1541s are dying of mechanical or electronic failures one by one and we will run out of them a lot sooner than the c64s.
if nobody does this by then, i will try someday :)
Well there is the old CMD line of hard drives and floppy drive replacements which cost an arm and a leg, but at least they are still being produced (I think?). In either case new interfaces seem the logical next step for mass storage. I can see more new development on the ole 64 if media could be stored and manipulated efficiently on modern hardware. Fast loaders wouldn't be needed if the 64's storage options could be moved into the 1990's with a little more and needed gusto. :) |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
If it should make any point to me it should be a totally new machine, so productions for this would work for everyone that had one, instead of only some people having those expansions.
But the main thing would have to be an improved sid chip - mainly to have more voices and perhaps a few channels dedicated to digi. the computer should be a bit faster, have a bit better gfx, more ram and so on... Still it should be a limited machine, to keep the good feeling about impressing poeple with it, contra the fact of it not being some super-pc. As I totally agree on the "wow-effect" mentioned in posts above. Anyways, I'm still very pleased with c64 and there is still a lot of neat things to be done with it.
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Merman
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 140 |
Quote: See this for an attempt of making a VGA adaptor
http://www.btinternet.com/~commodorescene/vga.html
The Chameleon cartridge from Individual Computers is aiming to include a flicker-fixer and VGA interface...
There's also the DTV with its extra colour modes (see Cosine's Blok Copy game released this past weekend) |
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