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2006-03-05 17:44
maestro

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 727
problems with vice

hi can anyone help or tell me what im doing wrong

im trying to run some old magazines and they just wont work

i can load demos etc the same way but the magazines just wont run
2006-03-05 17:53
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
True Drive Emulation enabled?
Virtual Device Traps on?
Try switching between 1541 and 1541-II emulation, some loaders only work on one drive.
2006-03-05 18:14
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
which reminds me to the lame bug in vice, true drive emulation is turned off randomly which makes me go ARRRGHHH.

and NO, I DONT NO C CODE, AND WONT FIX IT MYSELF.
2006-03-05 18:48
zdzisek
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 33
Quote: which reminds me to the lame bug in vice, true drive emulation is turned off randomly which makes me go ARRRGHHH.

and NO, I DONT NO C CODE, AND WONT FIX IT MYSELF.


Actually it's not random. It's turned off when:

-you load a file that isn't a disk image (eg. .prg, .t64, .tap)
-the Virtual Device Traps are turned on and you choose to autostart file from a disk image - TDE is turned off for loading time. If you interrupt the loading process (eg. by autostarting another file), TDE remains turned off.
2006-03-06 01:41
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
zdisek, that makes more sense

whats the idea behind turning it off when loading something thats not a disk image ?
2006-03-06 05:32
zdzisek
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 33
Sorry, I was not completely correct in my statement. When you load a .t64 or .tap file, TDE ain't turned off. It seems it's only true for .prg files, and it's related to the fact that they are loaded via sort of a fake environment, and therefore a real drive, which TDE tries to emulate, needs to be detached.
2006-03-06 07:54
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1647
@oswald: the prg-files load faster.

I'm also quite irritated at this "feature" (TDE getting turned off when autostarting a prg-file.) I can't really see that it would have to be that way? Fake environment or not, and it should defenitely get turned on again if doing a reset before prg file is fully loaded for example.

Anyway, I guess I shouldn't complain.
2006-03-06 08:54
maestro

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 727
thanks for all the help guys.

ive been having a mess around with vice now and i seem to be getting less and less problems
2006-03-06 11:09
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639
You're better off loading PRG files through the builtin monitor than from the command line, anyway. Just do »l "program.prg" 0« and it'll load straight from the current directory, without messing with your drive settings.
2006-03-06 11:17
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Drag'n'drop is always the most convenient way to load stuff in Vice.
2006-03-06 15:58
ready.

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 441
mmmh...cool, in life I never stop learning!!!I've been using VICE for 3 years so far and until last post I have never noticed I could drag-and-drop programs into it!!
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