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2003-08-07 19:44
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Is gfx ripping lame?

Just wondering about what ppl would think about this. Say I took a logo from an old demo by some oldskool group like Upfront or Horizon, and changed it to "Camelot" and used it in a CML-demo. Would that be considered lame, even if I clearly stated where it was ripped from and who was the original artist?
 
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2003-08-07 21:22
MacGyver
Account closed

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 149
Cruzer, personally I could live with it, but I guess you will be able to find people painting a new exclusive CaMeLot logo ;-) (e.g. if you would ask here).
2003-08-07 23:04
Slator

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274
hm, cruzer is the man for troubles in here, better go coding again instead of having strange danish ideas :-D

make some tower power and no more silly thinking.

and yes, it might be lame to rip gfx, even if some fli-elite-font was used "some" times. That is ok, but isnt it possible for some camelot fella to gain some gfx, the groupies still suck for code I guess...
2003-08-08 00:53
Derision

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 69
I don't think there's really any excuse to rip graphics from anything... and the reason is, because it is going to be altered.

If you rip music (a relatively common practice), the music stays the same. You're taking some random tune and sticking it in your demo and you can credit the musician for creating that. If you take a logo from some production or another, and then you alter it to say or be something else, then who's work is it? It'd be like me making slight alterations to the Turbo Outrun song and then putting it in my demo. I didn't write the thing, and Jeroen Tel didn't write the thing either, because it's not the original.

If you want to copy a style, then that's one thing. If the artist changes his own work, then that's okay. But ripping and then changing someone else's work seems wrong to me, somehow.

Besides, there are plenty of graphicians in the scene who are generally more than happy to draw something for whoever asks.
2003-08-08 01:05
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
http://www.cupid.de/logo-o-matic/logocreator.php
;)
2003-08-08 01:07
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
oh, mommy ate my words.
here's the url to you again, hope it will work this time

www.cupid.de/logo-o-matic/logocreator.php?logoname=camelot&font=ollie
2003-08-08 07:49
Slator

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274
Quote: oh, mommy ate my words.
here's the url to you again, hope it will work this time

www.cupid.de/logo-o-matic/logocreator.php?logoname=camelot&font=ollie


haha, that is a good one Arnold :D nearly forgot about it
:-D

@cruzer: don't forget to give credits :-D
2003-08-08 07:50
Slator

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274
Quote: I don't think there's really any excuse to rip graphics from anything... and the reason is, because it is going to be altered.

If you rip music (a relatively common practice), the music stays the same. You're taking some random tune and sticking it in your demo and you can credit the musician for creating that. If you take a logo from some production or another, and then you alter it to say or be something else, then who's work is it? It'd be like me making slight alterations to the Turbo Outrun song and then putting it in my demo. I didn't write the thing, and Jeroen Tel didn't write the thing either, because it's not the original.

If you want to copy a style, then that's one thing. If the artist changes his own work, then that's okay. But ripping and then changing someone else's work seems wrong to me, somehow.

Besides, there are plenty of graphicians in the scene who are generally more than happy to draw something for whoever asks.


That are really goog thoughts, I just can say that I totally agree with this opinion.

2003-08-08 11:52
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468
Plenty of gfxers that will make logos etc.? Maybe there should be some register of these people. I remember it took 2 years before I got a logo made for me, and that dude only just come back. I've asked around plenty of places. Most seem not interested or busy.
2003-08-08 12:02
T.M.R
Account closed

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 749
S'funny, don't remember you asking me...? =-)
2003-08-08 13:36
Dwangi

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 130
@cruzer

Why not rip an old CML logo then. For example the one in tower power?
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