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2003-08-19 00:33
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1646
longest scrolltext record on c64?

Sorry if this topic has been covered before, but I couldn't find it..

Who has the current scrolltext record on c64? (The longest scrolltext... preferably loading only once.)

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2003-08-20 13:29
VoDKa

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 32
If my memmory serves me right, the part in Crest-demo was a collection of texts from small demos called "blowjob" 1-4.

Any yes, read the entire text too. In the end you get the password "clockwork", witch gets you unlimited credits in the resturant.

About scrolltext: The 1:st time I spoke to King Fisher/Triad, he told me he had read ALL texts in the "Spik i foten"-serie, witch only consist of drunken crap-texts. Since then he is always greeted in the end of all partyscrollers from Booze Design.

Offtopic, but I think too that scrolltext-wrighting is a forgoten form of art.
2003-08-20 13:36
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: If my memmory serves me right, the part in Crest-demo was a collection of texts from small demos called "blowjob" 1-4.

Any yes, read the entire text too. In the end you get the password "clockwork", witch gets you unlimited credits in the resturant.

About scrolltext: The 1:st time I spoke to King Fisher/Triad, he told me he had read ALL texts in the "Spik i foten"-serie, witch only consist of drunken crap-texts. Since then he is always greeted in the end of all partyscrollers from Booze Design.

Offtopic, but I think too that scrolltext-wrighting is a forgoten form of art.


Clockwork .. the name of the company I work for .. coincedence? I think not!

And yes, scrolltext-writing is a forgotten art-form, for me it was the main reason to learn coding on c64.

Soon, soon I'll show my power again. Watch out for the 'resurrection' :)
2003-08-20 14:01
CyberBrain
Administrator

Posts: 392
That Crest-demo is here: McDonald's Restaurant
2003-08-21 11:12
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
It can't be that hard to make a scrolltext that fills several times the C64's memory. In everyday English there's only about 4000 words used IIRC, and if you pack them so each letter takes 6 bits and they are on average 5 letters long that means 3K are used for all the words. Then you just need 12 bits (2^12=4096) for each word in the scroll, which means about 40000 words, or if they are 5 letters on average each, a 200K scroll. Only problem: writing all that text while limiting yourself to the same 4000 words.
2003-08-21 11:15
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Oops... 3K for 4000 words might be a little too little. 15K was what I meant! :)
2003-08-27 19:43
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621
What about Babygang's 'World's Longest Scroller?' :)
2003-08-27 22:23
Fzool

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 11
Ehrm... sorry talking about long scrolltexts without mention Piece of Cake 1 by Megastyle INC is lame. Try to read the whole scroll text in the 4th part of the demo. I failed :)
2003-08-29 13:07
Dbug

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 5
Quote: It can't be that hard to make a scrolltext that fills several times the C64's memory. In everyday English there's only about 4000 words used IIRC, and if you pack them so each letter takes 6 bits and they are on average 5 letters long that means 3K are used for all the words. Then you just need 12 bits (2^12=4096) for each word in the scroll, which means about 40000 words, or if they are 5 letters on average each, a 200K scroll. Only problem: writing all that text while limiting yourself to the same 4000 words.

Well, actually this kind of packing has been done in the game Times of Lore.

Now, with modern technology it's perfectly possible to make a program that will encode a scrolltext in a very efficient way, by using things like huffman codes.

Basicaly we want to code on few bits the long words (or any sequences of characters) that appear very often, and user more bits for the less usual words.
2003-08-29 20:48
QuasaR

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 145
Only problem left would be: who's gonna write this scrolltext?! Or is Goldrush still around... =8)
2003-08-30 07:54
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: Only problem left would be: who's gonna write this scrolltext?! Or is Goldrush still around... =8)

(kuch kuch)

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