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vedos
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Capture device for capturing C-64 demos
I have been thinking about getting a capture device for capturing C-64 demos and old VHS cassettes. Currently Grass Valley's (ex-Canopus) ADVC-110 seems like a good choice.
http://ediusforum.grassvalley.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7292
Has some interesting read about capturing C-64 demos with ADVC-110.
Before buying it I'd like to know if there are any other similar devices which people have had good success in capturing video from C-64 (PAL 50fps progressive).
If you have any suggestions the price should be about in the same range as ADVC-110. I checked german pricewatch site (http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a126311.html) and it costs between 237,01 - 296 depending on where you order it. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11182 |
at breakpoint we use "folsom imagepro hd" (google it, you dont want to buy one probably =P) - and even they have certain problems. i would be very sceptic about consumer-level devices when it comes to this kind of stuff. |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
Groepaz: What are "certain problems", more specifically? All info I can find on the ImagePro HD touts that it can basically convert any signal into any other signal, so I'm curious about what it has problems with. :-) |
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Fredrik
Registered: Apr 2009
Posts: 204 |
I tried to capture from a real 64 with my Dazzle 150, and it got really well.
And this is the result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mSnDUGLSjE
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The Human Code Machine
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 110 |
You've better chosen something with a bit more movement and sound ;) |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
@Groepaz; You've seen my result with the ADVC110 (e.g. Edge of Disgrace). The ADVC110 is still more or less consumer level (about 250-300 euros), and the result is good. So I don't agree you need a high-end set-up to get the results we want.
@Sasq: you can download the .NSV file to play in WinAmp there. |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
If anyone could be so kind to capure Trans*Form - that would be awesome. I need to supply someone a video of that demo, but I haven't been able to capture it properly myself.. and i've really tried a lot. (problems: the moving objects would be static in the video, missed a frame and some odd pixel artefacts appeared in my tryouts.)
And anyone being so kind to do so, a capture of the 'remix' version would be awesome too :) I'd be very grateful! Perhaps we can work something out in exchange for the effort :) |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
Quote:@Groepaz; You've seen my result with the ADVC110 (e.g. Edge of Disgrace). The ADVC110 is still more or less consumer level (about 250-300 euros), and the result is good. So I don't agree you need a high-end set-up to get the results we want.
I downloaded the .nsv file, and to me it doesn't look like 50.12 fps, or even a tweened approximation. The movement in the chessboard parts is very jerky compared to real C64 output. |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Granted. It is not HDTV. But you think it is worth to buy $7000 stuff to record demos? I'd rather turn on one of my c64s and play it on that thing ;). Anyhow, I am not saying you will have HDTV, I am saying you can get a good (not excellent) result for a good price. If you're satisfied with that, like I am, then that's one option. I for one don't have thousands of dollars lying around to satisfy some minor personal quirks. ;) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11182 |
Quote:Groepaz: What are "certain problems", more specifically? All info I can find on the ImagePro HD touts that it can basically convert any signal into any other signal, so I'm curious about what it has problems with. :-)
the imagepro is fully digitial, and as a result "overdriven" signals (like what you get from the c64 =P) can not be sampled in its full range, but you will get clipping. the result is that the luma levels are a bit weird at the high range, white and yellow turn out almost the same for example. |
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vedos
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Registered: Jul 2003
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Quote: If anyone could be so kind to capure Trans*Form - that would be awesome. I need to supply someone a video of that demo, but I haven't been able to capture it properly myself.. and i've really tried a lot. (problems: the moving objects would be static in the video, missed a frame and some odd pixel artefacts appeared in my tryouts.)
And anyone being so kind to do so, a capture of the 'remix' version would be awesome too :) I'd be very grateful! Perhaps we can work something out in exchange for the effort :)
Maybe Mr. Mouse can help you. He has done excellent C-64 captures for demoscene.tv... |
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