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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
working AREX crack
somehow i stumbled about Arex [lightpen] when looking for some more stuff to add to my list of things that support lightpen/gun... however this one doesnt really work (same for the one in gamebase, likely the same thing). if you look at youtube videos you'll see that eg in the title screen the enemy things should move all the time, not only when holding down some key(s) :) also the game itself doesnt work at all (if you somehow manage to start it, by using f-keys and other keys together...). just took a quick peek at the memory, looks like a screwed up freeze to me. oh well. just curious :=) |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648 |
This may be wrong, or irrelevant in this particular case, but I seem to remember that some lightguns are wired in an inverted way, so that NOT pressing fire on them has the same effect as pressing fire on an ordinary joystick, and vice versa. If so, I imagine that this could cause interference with keyboard handling code? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
mmmmh i'll check this. could be
fooled around with it a bit... it doesnt make sense to me :)
unfortunately very little info can be found about this game... but apparently there exists an atari800 version, which supports the atari lightpen - which is one of the variants emulated by VICE. i would assume the c64 version also uses this one. but who knows. perhaps its just the freezing that fucked it up somehow. *shrug* |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
edit: hedning provided another version... which effectively was one byte different :) changing that byte from ff to d0 (*) makes at least the title screen "work". its still hard to tell how to exactly use the menu though. or the keyboard scanning is just super shit. also apparently you have to use the joystick in port1, not lightpen. *shrug*
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.C:2682 4C FF 26 JMP $26FF ; should be jmp $26d0
PS: that "frozen" version doesnt seem "frozen" at all, just packed |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732 |
Read the docs. :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
well, did you? it just doesnt work right :) you can sometimes, with luck, get into the game somehow by bashing random keys. i didnt manage to move the pointer in the menu at all, joysticks, keys, nothing works. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732 |
Quote: well, did you? it just doesnt work right :) you can sometimes, with luck, get into the game somehow by bashing random keys. i didnt manage to move the pointer in the menu at all, joysticks, keys, nothing works.
Yes I did read the docs. First of all: don't load it with cartridge. Second: joy in port 1. Then you can use the menu. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
wth :) it works with the version you sent. but only if you load it manually, and only using the "booter" on that d64. after that, it even keeps working after reset and restart. wtf :) |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732 |
Quote: wth :) it works with the version you sent. but only if you load it manually, and only using the "booter" on that d64. after that, it even keeps working after reset and restart. wtf :)
Yup! That is why I sent it to you. It works. :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
now i am really curious wtf is happening there :=) also why the fucking autostart screws things up again. BAH |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932 |
Let a real cracker handle that :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
if only one was around here.... |
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Marco
Registered: Jun 2021
Posts: 3 |
Does someone want to share the working version? |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732 |
Quote: Does someone want to share the working version?
I don't remember how I sent it to Groepaz, but he might still have it. |
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935 |
Arex |
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Marco
Registered: Jun 2021
Posts: 3 |
thx but i cant start the game. |
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ws
Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 251 |
tested with vice3.x + AR MKVI:
load the game any way you want (RAP crack).
any joy 2 input skips the cracktro and gets to the game menu
wait in the main game screen until the hand pointing at the options comes up (or press any f key except f7, which seems to move the creatures around the logo in gpz's freezed version)
then press f7 to start the game
will only get beyond player 1 message if you change $39a7 from #$D0 to #$A9
lightpen in vice seems to do nothing, though.
this game looks really interesting. nice sounds and gfx. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
hitmen.c02.at/temp/arex.zip is all i have (contains 2 or 3 different versions) - i don't remember what is what though.
I do remember though that you have to follow the instructions *exactly* - ie read the earlier posts in this thread :=) |
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ws
Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 251 |
Thanks for the zip! Yes, the version with the arex.boot on the Arex.d64 works without problems. arex.boot is a basic loader that patches $2683 . After i saw a longplay of the game and read the docs, it is actually pretty decent. Surely could use a overhauled release. |
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Marco
Registered: Jun 2021
Posts: 3 |
Thx for the zip file.
The d64 with the boot file is the working one 👍🏼
Sometimes the games crashes if you die |
