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2004-03-08 21:32
Faith
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will some 1 please tell me why

we have in the last days votet some groups in top 5! just for fun .......... and the most funny about it is few minutes after some 1 votet it down with 1 point , it seems to be somebody like to bee on the top 5 , so please can we get publised votes in here so we can see who the rullers are there are the voting 1 point for groups in here .....
 
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2004-03-09 12:51
Crossfire
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Human rule #1: If it CAN be abused, it WILL be...

Haven't you people learned anything? ;-)
2004-03-10 09:22
Radar
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Quote: Human rule #1: If it CAN be abused, it WILL be...

Haven't you people learned anything? ;-)


That's the point - another one is, that stupid little people like ecological Peter (nowadays saving eskimos at the northpol) will even show their deepest wishes from the past ;-)
2004-03-10 09:37
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
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You know, actually the solution is quite simple: we should just regard the charts as 'most liked' instead of 'best of'. Most liked can relate to both a person and his qualities, so then it will be accurate.

Or we could just drop the charts all together.
2004-03-10 10:11
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
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Perff agreed that I can use the transparent charts at c64.sk, so I will when the new system will be launched. (although I'm still stronglyu for dropping of anonymity completely.)
2004-03-10 10:18
Radar
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@Dark Judge
I believe that the people already vote like 'most liked' and that just a few vote for the skills. If a group/person is disliked, it has nothing to do with the skills at all. Your're right at that point...

@CreamD
So you start a kind of 'CSDB' on your own?
2004-03-10 10:43
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
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Radar, we are coopearing together like partner sites. C64.sk links to CSDB and help(ed) to promote this project since it was launched. Links to forums, show latest CSDB forum posts, Scener Birthdays. I planned to show latest releases too, but I didn't implement the code yet.

So we keep doing what our sites are made for. C64.sk is a C64 news site and c64scene.net is a C64 scene database.
2004-03-10 12:06
Ter-o
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One thing that crossed my mind about voting system could be that how about every vote increases total amount of points? so even those "downvotes" would increase the total amount of that person's points. And charts would be generated only of those total amount of points (more points, more higher you rank). F.E. if you check out mermaid's total amount of votes 66 (almost double as much as sander(37) and jailbird(36), rest have even less votes) she would definately have the total amount of points that she deserves... and most probably go to #1 in charts, where she belongs.
Just a thought... my 2 cents for making this votingsystem more fair. (not forgetting 100% transparent votes)

Thanks for your interest
2004-03-10 12:41
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: One thing that crossed my mind about voting system could be that how about every vote increases total amount of points? so even those "downvotes" would increase the total amount of that person's points. And charts would be generated only of those total amount of points (more points, more higher you rank). F.E. if you check out mermaid's total amount of votes 66 (almost double as much as sander(37) and jailbird(36), rest have even less votes) she would definately have the total amount of points that she deserves... and most probably go to #1 in charts, where she belongs.
Just a thought... my 2 cents for making this votingsystem more fair. (not forgetting 100% transparent votes)

Thanks for your interest


Interesting idea, but it won't work. The problem is that it's once again a matter of who's most known/liked that will be on top.

Lots of people know Mermaid, so will vote for Mermaid. Mermaid will be #1. Other people see her name in the charts and think: "I need to vote for her as well". Mermaid will stay #1.

Will another graphician (let's say, because I'm a bastard, Tecon) is not known by too many people so he will never gather enough votes to get into the top 10, hence he stays unknown and unvoted for.
2004-03-10 12:49
Ter-o
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Yeah that problem might occur. Tho, somehow this should be solved.. since the current voting system allows downvotes as for making harm to someone and also favors ppl with less votes.

Another idea that came my mind would be that the average value of votes should be somehow balanced to the amount of votes... f.e. those who have only 5 votes, would have lesser average value (somehow "weighed" of amount of votes) than those who have tens of votes.. I hope you catch my drift :)

But as it is now, I think it does not give the respect to those who deserves it :)
2004-03-10 12:57
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Yeah that problem might occur. Tho, somehow this should be solved.. since the current voting system allows downvotes as for making harm to someone and also favors ppl with less votes.

Another idea that came my mind would be that the average value of votes should be somehow balanced to the amount of votes... f.e. those who have only 5 votes, would have lesser average value (somehow "weighed" of amount of votes) than those who have tens of votes.. I hope you catch my drift :)

But as it is now, I think it does not give the respect to those who deserves it :)


Maybe I misunderstand, but do you really feel that somebody who gets more votes also automatically deserves more respect?

That would favor today's sceners over those from the golden age, because let's face it, they are better known.

Most people here probably don't know Compyx/Focus but he was one of the greatest logo-graphicians ever. Yet he hardly gets any votes.

Y'know, I think I'm gonna change that right now :)
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