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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 680 |
"BBS Graphics"
So, apparently BBS Graphics is different to PETSCII in that only a portion of the PETSCII charset is used.
However... why is BBS Graphics a "release type"? Every other graphic format is classed as "C64 Graphics" and with a subtype specifying the format (multicolour, hires, PETSCII, FLI, MC+sprites, etc).
Shouldn't BBS Graphics follow the same pattern? It could be a simple change - there are currently on 96 BBS Graphics releases. I suspect that several of those aren't BBS Graphics at all, actually. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
Still beats me why csdb doesn't run a cronjob that would just convert all screenshots to a common palette. Or even check it at upload and complain if wrong. But what do i know :) |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 680 |
Quote: Still beats me why csdb doesn't run a cronjob that would just convert all screenshots to a common palette. Or even check it at upload and complain if wrong. But what do i know :)
Some of the interlace screenshots include more than 16 colours I believe… which is what bothers me. The screenshots in those cases aren’t screenshots at all, they’re imaginary depictions of what the artist believes the picture looks like - as though there’s no flickeriness, as though interlace magically makes 1x1 pixels out of MC images, etc etc.
But as I say, that’s a rant for another day ;) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
Those "merged Screenshots" are just a terrible idea indeed. Just click delete on them and have whoever produce an anigif instead (for many gfx releases also this could be automatic) |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1098 |
Quoting RaistlinSome of the interlace screenshots include more than 16 colours I believe…
we discussed this on irc recently when we were discussing mc interlace support in png2prg. cjam hacked a quick python tool together to reduce a dirty >16 color screenshot to 16 colors.
https://github.com/staD020/png2prg/tree/master/testdata/madonna |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 680 |
Ohhhhh, very nice! I shall check this out … the dithering looks very nice on the final pic. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
That's even less of a C64 picture though :=) |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2240 |
Though this Fred wandered from GFX CATEGORY to Screenshots (off topic alert), I still wonder which of the images in Burg's git is supposed to be the output / 'role model'?
Personally, of course I see the point in getting rid of 'merged' screenshots pretending sth which is simply never to be seen as such on a real CRT like
or any other IFLI/other fancy Interlace modes and many of their screenshots in the database...
But Quoting 'Raistline'But as I say, that’s a rant for another day ;)
BTT
Quoting 'ChatGPZ'If you can print it, it's PETSCII
see: Plain PETSCII Graphics Competition 2013
worked quite well for a decade as a definition - thus, BBS ($D021 $00 and $d018 pointing at locase) would be a subcategory (BBS) of a subcategory (PETSCII) of a category (Graphics)... We're talking about <100 releases... so tbh I rather say dump BBS as category for good instead of making things more complicated than your average CSDb user (uploader) will be able to see through.
*drops da mic keys* |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 680 |
@ChatGPZ: it’s not C64 but is closer to C64 for me than blending the colours to make ones that don’t exist. So I’m not sure.. I tried with an animated GIF on my site - but that’s not great either…
@TheRyk: I think that was everyone’s consensus, to simply remove BBS Graphics - that many of the releases currently set as BBS are actually just PETSCII also demonstrates why that’s the right thing to do ;) |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1098 |
Quoting TheRykI still wonder which of the images in Burg's git is supposed to be the output / 'role model'?
dirty_madonna.gif = >16 colors
cjam_pure_madonna.png = 16 colors |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4731 |
Quote: Quoting TheRykI still wonder which of the images in Burg's git is supposed to be the output / 'role model'?
dirty_madonna.gif = >16 colors
cjam_pure_madonna.png = 16 colors
Wrongh thread for this discussion, Raistlin and Burglar. Continue here: C64GFXDb |
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