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2023-02-19 21:08
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5095
Why people listen to "classic" SIDs more ?

Vincenzo wrote:

Looks like there's no active musicians on the C64 since the early 2000's :) No offense, everyone has a different taste for music and can make a selection based on personal preference.

I don't expect answers and I don't want to start a war obviously, I'm just saying there's so much more in the "newest era" (which is already 20 years since 2000') of SID music than the old classics. Aren't you guys bored to listen to the same tunes over and over?

To be fair, this is a nice and diverse selection of tracks, I just wouldn't prefer a couple of them in my own playlist because of the above mentioned reason.
2023-02-19 21:09
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5095
and here is my take, its simply nostalgy, and young age, everything you experience younger, those are stronger experiences you feel those feelings first time and not the 30th when you are older.
2023-02-19 21:20
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11391
For me its different, i enjoy those modern tunes much more these days. And a lot of the "classics" i cant stand anymore. But i don't listen to either much, outside of compos or party context.
2023-02-19 22:25
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2263
Maybe the 80s classic are just like "dad rock" from the perspective of people who are too young to know them from 80s. Anyway, 80s pop music as well as 80s .SID music will always be my gate to another dimension or a time travel to my youth. I'm never gonna be bored by them. If that's nostalgia, then I'm guilty as charged. However, anyone who knows anything about music and 8bit must admit, there's plenty masterpieces that date from that golden era, actually no wonder, because that was the time when millions of people had a C=64 at their home.

But I'm aware that there's much more out there. To me, worshipping the classics and enjoying 90s and younger stuff and of course keeping up to date with present compositions does not mean any contradiction. And I guess(!) Vincenzo's assumption (C64 sceners ignore/disregard current SID music in favour of listening to 80s classics all the time) really doesn't fit for a meaningully big part of the scene HERE on CSDb. Might be different when you go to mere user forums.
2023-02-20 06:23
Mixer

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 454
We remember the music we learned when we were young and growing up. Old dog does not learn new SIDS.
2023-02-20 07:57
Boogaloo

Registered: Aug 2019
Posts: 24
I guess I might have the "dad rock" syndrome, but I also enjoy the newer SIDs a lot. Mostly because they are so much more polished and they have a "tighter" sound, because they are mostly created for the 8580.

I have another, but similar pet peeve: I am quite annoyed that most SID nostalgia seems to revolve around game music, while there is so much better demo music out there. :-)

I assume that the the game music affection mostly come from people outside the demo scene, of course. Nevertheless, I get so bored every time I see some Youtube video with "Top 25 C64 tunes" and they are all game tunes. :-)
2023-02-20 08:55
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1105
There is one classic sid I play every once in a while: Jammin' Loose :) (Hi Boogaloo!)
2023-02-20 11:32
Mibri

Registered: Feb 2018
Posts: 214
There are definitely plenty of SID tunes from the old days that are engaging musically, as Ryker says, though I'll admit that for the most part I find the old stuff interesting from a historical point of view, thinking about how and why the tunes were made rather than getting real gratification from listening to them.

I don't think this is a zero-sum situation, anyway. I'm quite sure there are plenty of SID fans who have awareness of and enthusiasm for both the old school and the contemporary - the popularity of Max Hall's monthly Chip SID Show, which mixes the old and the new, should be ample proof of that.
2023-02-20 11:41
Boogaloo

Registered: Aug 2019
Posts: 24
Quoting Burglar
There is one classic sid I play every once in a while: Jammin' Loose :) (Hi Boogaloo!)


A very good choice indeed! :-D <3
2023-02-20 11:46
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5095
Jammin' Loose

ooh, I love this one too, lets give it a spin :)

edit: btw I have found Jammin' Loose in HVSC around 2000's and still picked it up, so to contradict myself, I often feel like those "classic" sids have more depth to them, its a whole story usually, beginning, middle, climatic part, and closing.

one example: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/O/Ouwehand_Reyn/D..
2023-02-20 13:24
Ziaxx

Registered: Oct 2020
Posts: 18
For me it's pure nostalgia. I was active in the scene in the late 80s (and early 90s on the Amiga) and I only listen to SID music from that era. The new ones might be technically better but give me no emotional feelings. I prefer old school demos for the same reason, even though some modern demos do amaze me.
 
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